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    Default Re: Updated - Now Bleachbit is gone...

    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    Hi
    That's a version number not a python version number.... It still uses python 2

    https://build.opensuse.org/package/v...patch?expand=1

    I see https://github.com/bleachbit/bleachbit/pull/164 but until it's there and re submitted.....
    I stand corrected, should have checked the spec file.
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    Default Re: Updated - Now Bleachbit is gone...

    Of course,
    In Linux you don't have to use a commercial tool like bleachbit, it really is something that is used only because of its notoriety when it was used by Hillary's IT guy on that mailserver of disrepute.

    Amusingly, I found someone created a ArchWiki article, one of the most complex I've ever seen for a relatively simple operation...

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Securely_wipe_disk

    Bottom line, and summarizing what you'll find in the above article...

    Linux/Unix has several tools that can securely wipe a disk,
    dd, shred and wipe are wYell known. Bad Blocks looks like something I've not seen before but should work fine, too. hdparm is interesting, too but comes with warnings.

    Keep in mind that this applies only to magnetic media, like rotating disks (ie hdd).
    These tools don't apply to solid state media like SSD, USB dongles, cf and sd cards, etc... Those are erased using other meands.

    I personally recommend dd.
    The only things to know is that you can wipe your free space lightning fast by specifying large block(s) but will likely also leave a large amount of unprocess (not over-written space. So, sophisticated use starts by writing zeroes or random characters in enormous blocks for most of the space, and then finishes up with a separate process writing to smaller blocks to ensure nearly nothing is left to be recovered. And if you like, do this a few times to ensure completeness.

    Shred does a lot of this automatically.

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    No idea which linux command is executed by Bleachnit under the hood, I use it for centuries now, no Hillary, no nothing. It's simply that you can choose all programs and folders you wanna clean and after browsing/before logging out you have a "fresh" machine.

    On SSD a subsequent fstrim (on EXT4) should make the deleted data unrecoverable, or?
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    Default Re: Updated - Now Bleachbit is gone...

    Quote Originally Posted by suse_rasputin View Post
    No idea which linux command is executed by Bleachnit under the hood, I use it for centuries now, no Hillary, no nothing. It's simply that you can choose all programs and folders you wanna clean and after browsing/before logging out you have a "fresh" machine.

    On SSD a subsequent fstrim (on EXT4) should make the deleted data unrecoverable, or?
    With SSD, start with the manufacturer's documentation.
    There might be a switch you simply enable, that's all.

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    Default Re: Updated - Now Bleachbit is gone...

    Next time try shred...
    Something like this...
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    shred --remove /dev/sdd
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    Default Re: Updated - Now Bleachbit is gone...

    Quote Originally Posted by tsu2 View Post
    Next time try shred...
    Something like this...
    Code:
    shred --remove /dev/sdd
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    I don't kill of my systems completely ater every Firefox session. Just clean some locations. Maybe you should have a closer look at what Bleachbit REALLY is... ;-)
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    Default Re: Updated - Now Bleachbit is gone...

    Quote Originally Posted by suse_rasputin View Post
    Kids don't do that at home:

    https://unix.stackexchange.com/quest...ete-partitions

    I don't kill of my systems completely ater every Firefox session. Just clean some locations. Maybe you should have a closer look at what Bleachbit REALLY is... ;-)
    It does depend on what you want to do,
    In the case of what I proposed, is to wipe the disk clean so that data cannot likely be recovered forensically.
    And, that is why I pointed the sample code not at any partitions in a standard installation to minimize accidental use.

    If a person wanted a lot less, then there are other options...
    My previous post described the standard way to wipe free space, leaving existing files... Which is also a requirement if you're compressing a virtual disk (a fundamental principle of compression is to make anything as much the same as possible, and you want your empty space to be all zeroes). Modify it if you want to remove specific files and directories before zeroeing out the empty space, even beginning Users probably can figure that out.

    Linux is powerful,
    Like anything else, know what you want to do and respect the tool but don't be afraid to use it.

    I don't usually see any commercial tools that do anything that can't be done otherwise... and Bleachbit is no exception. I fully endorse any tool, even Bleachbit when it can do something more easily than alternatives but I rarely say that any one tool is the only way something should be done.

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    Default Re: Updated - Now Bleachbit is gone...

    It too was taken away with the update, but I reinstalled it and blocked the package without doing anything else
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    Default Re: Updated - Now Bleachbit is gone...

    When I updated it was subsequently no longer in the standard repo, had to re-install from "utilities"...
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    Default Re: Updated - Now Bleachbit is gone...

    Quote Originally Posted by suse_rasputin View Post
    When I updated it was subsequently no longer in the standard repo, had to re-install from "utilities"...
    Yes re-install from "utilities"
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