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    Default Difficulty updating KDE repositories

    I'm keen to update KDE Frameworks and Applications, and have followed the instructions at https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:KDE_repositories - using zypper to add the QT5/Frameworks/Applications repos for 15.1 (with priority 75) and running
    Code:
    zypper -v dup --allow-vendor-change
    This completes OK, and after a reboot all is still running (phew!), but KInfocenter reports that I'm still running Qt 5.9.7, Frameworks 5.55.0 and Plasma 5.12.8.
    Looking through packages in software management there are a small handful of items that are from the p75 repos (eg knewstuff, kcoreaddons), but most are still coming from Main Repository.

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: Difficulty updating KDE repositories

    Hi,

    did you dup to the repository it self?

    Code:
    zypper dup -r #
    where # is the number of the repo which you can get via

    Code:
    zypper lr -E
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    Default Re: Difficulty updating KDE repositories

    Quote Originally Posted by jetchisel View Post
    Hi,

    did you dup to the repository it self?

    Code:
    zypper dup -r #
    where # is the number of the repo which you can get via

    Code:
    zypper lr -E
    Hi - thanks for the help.
    I had tried --from, which gave a bunch of issue to resolve: using -r as you advise (which sounds slightly different) for KDE-Applications/Frameworks/QT5 respectively, I get 225/257/64 problems as below (showing 1st result only).
    Is it worth removing those repos, zypper dup'ing back to a clean slate and trying again?

    Code:
    sudo zypper dup -r 1
    Loading repository data...
    Reading installed packages...
    Computing distribution upgrade...
    225 Problems:
    Problem: problem with installed package akonadi-calendar-lang-18.12.3-lp151.2.1.noarch
    Code:
    sudo zypper dup -r 2
    Loading repository data...
    Reading installed packages...
    Computing distribution upgrade...
    257 Problems:
    Problem: problem with installed package baloo5-file-5.55.0-lp151.2.2.x86_64
    Code:
    sudo zypper dup -r 3
    Loading repository data...
    Reading installed packages...
    Computing distribution upgrade...
    64 Problems:
    Problem: problem with installed package grantlee5-5.1.0-lp151.2.4.x86_64

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    Default Re: Difficulty updating KDE repositories

    Please first show what you get with the
    Code:
    zypper lr -d
    Else we will not be able to see what the 1, 2 and 3 are.

    @jetchisel: we need -d, because -E will not give us the URLs and as a consequence we will not know anything about which repos.
    Last edited by hcvv; 15-Jan-2020 at 01:43.
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: Difficulty updating KDE repositories

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    Please first show what you get with the
    Code:
    zypper lr -d
    Else we will not be able to see what the 1, 2 and 3 are.

    @jetchisel: we need -d, because -E will not give us the URLs and as a consequence we will not know anything about which repos.
    Thanks!
    Note that they're not presently set to Autorefresh, but I have zypper ref'd.
    Code:
    sudo zypper lr -d
    #  | Alias                               | Name                                                                 | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                                                             | Service
    ---+-------------------------------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+----------+--------+-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
     1 | KDE-Applications                    | KDE-Applications                                                     | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   75     | rpm-md | https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Applications/KDE_Frameworks5_openSUSE_Leap_15.1 |
     2 | KDE-Frameworks                      | KDE-Frameworks                                                       | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   75     | rpm-md | https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Frameworks5/openSUSE_Leap_15.1                  |
     3 | KDE-Qt5                             | KDE-Qt5                                                              | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   75     | rpm-md | https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openSUSE_Leap_15.1

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    Default Re: Difficulty updating KDE repositories

    That is a very remarkable repo list. Alll te standard repos are missing!. How do you manege to keep your system up-to-date with this setup?
    Henk van Velden

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    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    That is a very remarkable repo list. Alll te standard repos are missing!. How do you manege to keep your system up-to-date with this setup?
    Haha!
    Sorry, in effort to keep it to the point I had listed only the repos I was trying to use for KDE. Full (and probably remarkable for other reasons) list:
    Code:
    sudo zypper lr -d
    #  | Alias                               | Name                                                                 | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                                                             | Service
    ---+-------------------------------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+----------+--------+-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
     1 | KDE-Applications                    | KDE-Applications                                                     | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   75     | rpm-md | https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Applications/KDE_Frameworks5_openSUSE_Leap_15.1 |
     2 | KDE-Frameworks                      | KDE-Frameworks                                                       | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   75     | rpm-md | https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Frameworks5/openSUSE_Leap_15.1                  |
     3 | KDE-Qt5                             | KDE-Qt5                                                              | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   75     | rpm-md | https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openSUSE_Leap_15.1                          |
     4 | LibreOffice_Factory                 | The development branch for LibreOffice packages (openSUSE_Leap_15.1) | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Factory/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/              |
     5 | NVIDIA                              | NVIDIA                                                               | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99     | rpm-md | https://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/leap/15.1                                                  |
     6 | Virtualization                      | Virtualization                                                       | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Virtualization/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/                    |
     7 | X11_XOrg                            | X.Org development (openSUSE_Leap_15.1)                               | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/XOrg/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/                         |
     8 | http-download.opensuse.org-6e7aac73 | Publishing                                                           | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Publishing/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/                        |
     9 | http-download.opensuse.org-813aa1d9 | KDE:KDE3                                                             | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/                         |
    10 | http-download.opensuse.org-cf7f315c | devel:languages:perl                                                 | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/perl/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/            |
    11 | http-download.opensuse.org-da7d4d5a | openSUSE:Leap:15.1:Update                                            | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.1/oss/                                              |
    12 | http-download.opensuse.org-dcd11ec5 | graphics                                                             | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/graphics/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/                          |
    13 | http-download.opensuse.org-ddacf414 | Emulators:Wine                                                       | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Emulators:/Wine/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/                   |
    14 | http-download.opensuse.org-efad075e | home:ecsos                                                           | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/ecsos/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/                       |
    15 | insync                              | insync                                                               | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | rpm-md | http://yum.insynchq.com/fedora/29                                                               |
    16 | mozilla                             | mozilla                                                              | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   90     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/                           |
    17 | packman                             | packman                                                              | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   90     | rpm-md | http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/                              |
    18 | repo-debug                          | Debug Repository                                                     | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/15.1/repo/oss/                             |
    19 | repo-debug-non-oss                  | Debug Repository (Non-OSS)                                           | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/15.1/repo/non-oss/                         |
    20 | repo-debug-update                   | Update Repository (Debug)                                            | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/15.1/oss/                                        |
    21 | repo-debug-update-non-oss           | Update Repository (Debug, Non-OSS)                                   | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/15.1/non-oss/                                    |
    22 | repo-non-oss                        | Non-OSS Repository                                                   | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.1/repo/non-oss/                               |
    23 | repo-oss                            | Main Repository                                                      | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.1/repo/oss/                                   |
    24 | repo-source                         | Source Repository                                                    | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/15.1/repo/oss/                            |
    25 | repo-source-non-oss                 | Source Repository (Non-OSS)                                          | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/15.1/repo/non-oss/                        |
    26 | repo-update                         | Main Update Repository                                               | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.1/oss                                               |
    27 | repo-update-non-oss                 | Update Repository (Non-Oss)                                          | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.1/non-oss/                                          |
    28 | skype-stable                        | skype (stable)                                                       | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99     | rpm-md | https://repo.skype.com/rpm/stable/                                                              |
    29 | teams                               | teams                                                                | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99     | rpm-md | https://packages.microsoft.com/yumrepos/ms-teams                                                |

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    Default Re: Difficulty updating KDE repositories

    Quote Originally Posted by agt499 View Post
    Haha!
    Sorry, in effort to keep it to the point I had listed only the repos I was trying to use for KDE. Full (and probably remarkable for other reasons) list:
    The general idea is that one has a problem. One has thought and re-thought about that for already for some time. one has rejected (either by reasoning or, very human, by ignoring) some of the paths to walk to solution. In the end one asks for help, but instead of providing the full technical inforamtion to the helpers so they can come to some conclusions without the bias of the oroginal poster, one tell some story about ones owm conclusions sometimes accompanies by some lines of computer output without any informatuon how that output was created.

    What I paint here is more or less the worst case. But elements of this return again and again. That is why we ask to privide the technical information behind every conclusion (not "the internet is gone", but a screen shot of a browser window, better a ping comand with it's output, etc.).

    The idea is that a fesh look at a problem may lead to a complete differnt answer. That is why you ask others.

    That is also why we ask to include in the copy/paste like asked above: the line with the prompt and the command, the complete output and the new line with the new prompt. When you do that, you create trust in what you post, that it is exactly what you have before you (remond that we can not look over your shoulder) and that it is complete.

    Now back to your case.
    I saw e.g. that you do not have the default priority on those repos. Then there is the automatic question: what are the priorities of the repos I do not see?

    And seeing the list now, what about the still active KDE3 repo (#9)? Can not that interfere with KDE?
    And what is #11?
    Henk van Velden

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    Quote Originally Posted by agt499 View Post
    Hi - thanks for the help.
    I had tried --from, which gave a bunch of issue to resolve: using -r as you advise (which sounds slightly different) for KDE-Applications/Frameworks/QT5 respectively, I get 225/257/64 problems as below (showing 1st result only).
    You can avoid most of those conflicts if you also use "--allow-vendor-change" on that command line.

    Is it worth removing those repos, zypper dup'ing back to a clean slate and trying again?
    The "zypper dup" to a clean state probably won't help.

    With this many conflicts, obviously your initial attempt (as in your original post) didn't do anything. Perhaps that is because you did not set the KDE repos to autorefresh, and perhaps you did not manually refresh before that first try.

    Best to set them to autorefresh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    The general idea is that one has a problem. One has thought and re-thought about that for already for some time. one has rejected (either by reasoning or, very human, by ignoring) some of the paths to walk to solution. In the end one asks for help, but instead of providing the full technical inforamtion to the helpers so they can come to some conclusions without the bias of the oroginal poster, one tell some story about ones owm conclusions sometimes accompanies by some lines of computer output without any informatuon how that output was created.

    What I paint here is more or less the worst case. But elements of this return again and again. That is why we ask to privide the technical information behind every conclusion (not "the internet is gone", but a screen shot of a browser window, better a ping comand with it's output, etc.).

    The idea is that a fesh look at a problem may lead to a complete differnt answer. That is why you ask others.

    That is also why we ask to include in the copy/paste like asked above: the line with the prompt and the command, the complete output and the new line with the new prompt. When you do that, you create trust in what you post, that it is exactly what you have before you (remond that we can not look over your shoulder) and that it is complete.

    Now back to your case.
    I saw e.g. that you do not have the default priority on those repos. Then there is the automatic question: what are the priorities of the repos I do not see?

    And seeing the list now, what about the still active KDE3 repo (#9)? Can not that interfere with KDE?
    And what is #11?
    Thanks very much Henk! My apologies that I'd made it harder for you to help!
    So...
    1. "you do not have the default priority on those repos"
      Correct - they were set to higher priority (lower number=75) per the instructions at https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:KDE_repositories
      My understanding is that this should mean these get picked up in preference to anything with a larger number. Re the priorities you do not see, all are at 99 except for r16/r17 which are mozilla/packman at priority 90.
      I have also set the KDE-Applications/Frameworks/QT5 repos to autorefresh as suggested by nrickert.
    2. "what about the still active KDE3 repo (#9)?"
      Reasonable point! As guessed per your reply I had the issue with the new KDE repos "already for some time" - the kde3 was added 2 days ago for a specific legacy app.
      To make this troubleshooting easier I have removed the app and this repo.
    3. "and what is #11?"
      Looking at all the attributes including url from zypper lr -d, it appears to be a duplicate of the Main Update Repository (maybe added by a ymp?).
      I've deleted that repo now.


    With those things done, my list of repos, refresh, and attempt at zypper -v dup --allow-vendor-change look as posted below, so TLDR it's still not using the versions in the KDE repos despite their higher priority.
    -Note I ran a standard zypper update first to apply unrelated updates (eg bunch of libreoffice etc).

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