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    Was there any other announcement posted about the end of the NNTP interface, other than on the web? Like maybe an article in the announcement group? I hadn't looked at the web for months, and now I see my usual way of accessing the forums is going away.

    Maybe I missed something, but it's still a bit of a bummer.
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    Default Re: NNTP demise?

    It is recent news in the public domain...
    https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/47015

    You may also be interested in this mailinglist thread...
    https://lists.opensuse.org/heroes/2019-06/msg00007.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by deano_ferrari View Post
    It is recent news in the public domain...
    https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/47015

    You may also be interested in this mailinglist thread...
    https://lists.opensuse.org/heroes/2019-06/msg00007.html
    Fine, but neither of those will show up for anyone using NNTP only. It would have been nice if something was mentioned in the protocol that was about to be axed, directly to the users affected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoBaltz View Post
    Fine, but neither of those will show up for anyone using NNTP only. It would have been nice if something was mentioned in the protocol that was about to be axed, directly to the users affected.
    Yes, I agree, but to put it in perspective, very few are using this legacy interface. Hopefully, those interested in preserving it will step up to support its continuation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deano_ferrari View Post
    Yes, I agree, but to put it in perspective, very few are using this legacy interface. Hopefully, those interested in preserving it will step up to support its continuation.
    But those few are exactly the ones that are going to be blindsided by this. It just stops working with no warning that they see.

    It's been over 20 years since I ran an NNTP server, and I can't re-learn it in 3 days, but I'd be interested in helping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoBaltz View Post
    But those few are exactly the ones that are going to be blindsided by this. It just stops working with no warning that they see.

    It's been over 20 years since I ran an NNTP server, and I can't re-learn it in 3 days, but I'd be interested in helping.
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    Default Re: NNTP demise?

    Quote Originally Posted by GeoBaltz View Post
    But those few are exactly the ones that are going to be blindsided by this. It just stops working with no warning that they see.

    It's been over 20 years since I ran an NNTP server, and I can't re-learn it in 3 days, but I'd be interested in helping.
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    If your news reader has rss feeds (I use claws-mail) you can, in the interim pick that feed and at least get thread starters that may tweak your interest and visit the web interface.

    FWIW almost 50% of nntp (~12 users per month) now know of the impending hiatus, in saying that I hope the newer interface can also integrate with the Mailing Lists (I use gmane for this currently) and can get the best of both worlds....

    The nntp server itself is pretty easy, it's the vB <-> nntp gateway that is the fun part, plus the ability when a post or thread is removed from the web interface, the corresponding posts are removed from the nntp side, Forum staff currently have a web interface to add the header information and select either cancel message or thread. This feature would have to be implemented for the Mailing List, would also be nice for a RSS feed cancel as well.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoBaltz View Post
    It's been over 20 years since I ran an NNTP server, and I can't re-learn it in 3 days, but I'd be interested in helping.
    That's good. Please signal your interest as Gertjan via email as Gertjan has indicated.
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    On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 08:26:03 +0000, GeoBaltz wrote:

    > deano_ferrari;2905773 Wrote:
    >> It is recent news in the public domain...
    >> https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/47015
    >>
    >> You may also be interested in this mailinglist thread...
    >> https://lists.opensuse.org/heroes/2019-06/msg00007.html

    >
    > Fine, but neither of those will show up for anyone using NNTP only. It
    > would have been nice if something was mentioned in the protocol that was
    > about to be axed, directly to the users affected.


    Well said. While my participation on the forums has waned in the past
    couple of years, I suspect that it will completely disappear if an NNTP
    or equivilant interface is lost. I have neither the time nor patience to
    deal with the webb interface.

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    Default Re: NNTP demise?

    On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 00:26:03 +0000, GeoBaltz wrote:

    > Was there any other announcement posted about the end of the NNTP
    > interface, other than on the web? Like maybe an article in the
    > announcement group? I hadn't looked at the web for months, and now I
    > see my usual way of accessing the forums is going away.
    >
    > Maybe I missed something, but it's still a bit of a bummer.


    Yep, it is - I use it exclusively myself, but I haven't had a lot of
    spare time to put into it (I have done maintenance on the gateway code as
    needed, but it's been pretty solid the last few years).

    I was thinking earlier this week that we should get a notice up, but life
    got in the way for me and I haven't been around as a result.

    Getting the gateway working with INN is pretty easy. Getting INN
    properly installed and secured so it doesn't become a spammer source is
    more challenging; we're not moving from INN either, we're moving from a
    server that's no longer supported any more, so the configuration
    information around things like the posting filters we use doesn't
    translate at all.

    As Knurpht said, anyone who wants to help keep it going is welcome to
    provide some assistance - the e-mail address he shared will be the right
    team to coordinate with.

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