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    Default Re: Want to build new pc , looking for tips on dual boot

    Quote Originally Posted by J_Andrew View Post
    I realize I am late to the thread.

    If you have not yet purchased a new copy of Windows, have you considered running windows as a virtual machine?

    You can download a full version of Win7, Win8.1, or Win10 from this Microsoft website:

    Free Virtual Machines
    I did not buy a new windows, but found out something interesting.

    You can activate windows 10 with a windows 7 key, 100% legal.

    Only two restrictions, its needs to be the same version (you can't go from home to pro or something like that ) and it needs to have the same language setting.

    32 or 64 bit does not matter though.


    Today I installed windows 10, and typed in the windows 7 key.
    After installation I checked, and all went well. I now have a windows 10 pro 64 bit installed. ( my windows 7 32 bit is also a pro version )

    Now I am waiting for a sata cable, so I can hook up the second hard disk and install leap 15.1 on it.

    I do have two sata cable, but it has two straight connectors, and that won't fit. There is not enough room for a straight connector to the hard disk.
    I need a cable with a connector under 90 degrees at one end.

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    Default Re: Want to build new pc , looking for tips on dual boot

    Small update.

    I had both hard disk in, and was ready to install leap 15.1.

    Then run into a problem

    I had put in my Geforce 750 GTX ( took out the HD5700) and suddenly I can't even get into the bios anymore.

    After allot of trying, disconnecting both hard disk and taking cmos battery out, still nothing.

    At first thoght vid card was broken, but there might be some hope left.

    It seems a Ryzen cpu and some nvidia cards don't like each other.


    A dutch forum called Tweakers made a few suggestions on what to try.


    I also found this thread, thats how I know there is an issue with some nividia cards and a Ryzen cpu.

    https://community.amd.com/thread/228819

    Just got a response from AMD which I will post here:
    Thank you for reporting your issue to us, we have had other similar reports and have reproduced it in our labs.

    We have narrowed down the problem to be a compatibility issue between new and old technology, the GTX 780 is over 5 years old.

    That being said, we were able to work around the bootup issue by setting the PCIe option in the motherboard BIOS to Gen 1.

    If you can access your motherboard BIOS and it supports this option, then this may be a feasible workaround for you.

    If not, then you may want to consider contacting Nvidia support for further assistance with your GTX 780 issue.

    So I have 3 things to try:
    The thing suggested by amd, In bios ( will have to put hd5700 back in )

    See if csm is enabled under boot. ( compatibility Support Module)

    Also try if Load Video on ROM is set to Legacy.

    Then put GTX 750 back in , and see if it works this time around.

    Don't we love computers ?

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    Default Re: Want to build new pc , looking for tips on dual boot

    Quote Originally Posted by Gps2010 View Post
    Small update.

    I had both hard disk in, and was ready to install leap 15.1.

    Then run into a problem

    I had put in my Geforce 750 GTX ( took out the HD5700) and suddenly I can't even get into the bios anymore.

    After allot of trying, disconnecting both hard disk and taking cmos battery out, still nothing.

    At first thoght vid card was broken, but there might be some hope left.

    It seems a Ryzen cpu and some nvidia cards don't like each other.


    A dutch forum called Tweakers made a few suggestions on what to try.


    I also found this thread, thats how I know there is an issue with some nividia cards and a Ryzen cpu.

    https://community.amd.com/thread/228819



    So I have 3 things to try:
    The thing suggested by amd, In bios ( will have to put hd5700 back in )

    See if csm is enabled under boot. ( compatibility Support Module)

    Also try if Load Video on ROM is set to Legacy.

    Then put GTX 750 back in , and see if it works this time around.

    Don't we love computers ?
    Hi
    Doesn't the GTX750 support UEFI? You can update the video bios with nvflash, need to put in card details at this site;
    https://www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-nvflash/
    https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/

    I did an update to a GT640 and a GT8800 card and it upgraded the video BIOS without issues, you need to do it at runlevel three though.
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    I have no idea, a person on the Tweakers forum however was wondering the same, if the GTX 750 can't handle eufi.

    I will see if I can find info on the site of the manufacturer, and if they have a bios update.

    I might be able to do it on windows 7. Or need to reinstall it on opensuse 42.3, on the pc I am typing this with. Because on new pc can't do anything with that card in.

    https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N750OC-1GI#ov

    I will do some more searching, but did find something.

    OC GURU II that tool seems to be able to do a bios update.

    I am gonna contact them, and see what they say.



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    [RANT]
    With a slight raised blood pressure, I was able to file a support ticket. ( gigabyte)

    I had to fill in the bios version, but typing I don't know in the box, will get you onto the next screen, were you can ask you're question. ( Does this card support EUFI ? )
    Why do those support sites always make you feel, they don't want you to ask for support?


    I can understand they want a serial number but the bios version ? How many users will even understand what that means ?

    They asked for the operating system, but you can't select Linux. And me not even being able to get in to the bios, makes the question of what os I am using irrelevant.

    [/RANT]

    To be continued

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    Default Re: Want to build new pc , looking for tips on dual boot

    I do not know yet, if the video card will be recognized now, but managed to update the bios.


    There is something on the Asrock site, that was confusing me, and this might help others with an Asrock mobo.

    If you want to update the bios, they tell you to first install an amd all in1.

    This needs to be done on windows, not in the bios.

    The thing is, if you don't have integrated graphics, like with mine Ryzen 5, this warning does not apply.

    So if you're on Linux and want to update the bios, just ignore this warning.

    If you also use windows, and use integrated graphics, it might be safer to do as Asrock tells you.

    https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/B450M%...index.asp#BIOS

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    Default Re: Want to build new pc , looking for tips on dual boot

    Bios update did not help. So vid card is probably dead.

    I also got a reply from gigabyte, and it seems card does support eufi, but they also said they doubt that that has anything to do with my problem.
    They advised to try the card in a different pc, to rule out its not broken.

    I am saving up money, to get an rx 570 or rx 580 or an nividia 1050 ( Ti )

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvNXm9Qt9dA

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    Default Re: Want to build new pc , looking for tips on dual boot

    Quote Originally Posted by Gps2010 View Post
    Bios update did not help. So vid card is probably dead.

    I also got a reply from gigabyte, and it seems card does support eufi, but they also said they doubt that that has anything to do with my problem.
    They advised to try the card in a different pc, to rule out its not broken.

    I am saving up money, to get an rx 570 or rx 580 or an nividia 1050 ( Ti )

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvNXm9Qt9dA
    Hi
    If going the Nvidia way check out the Zontac GTX 1650 OC, the other one I've been looking at is the Sapphire Radeon Pulse RX 570....
    Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890)
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