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    Hello.
    Why OpenSUSE not have any Xen Virtualization option when setup? Why it just KVM?

    https://pasteboard.co/IiJZkhg.png

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: OpenSUSE forgot Xen Virtualization?

    It's there, but maybe it isn't on the DVD. After you have completed install, open Yast Software Manager and choose the "Patterns" view. You will see the option.
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    Default Re: OpenSUSE forgot Xen Virtualization?

    You're just looking at patterns, and if I had my druthers the KVM pattern you identified should be hidden to avoid mistakes like what you would have made if you had found a Xen pattern.

    In openSUSE,
    The proper way to install Xen, KVM and LXC is to use the YaST Virtualization install module.
    When you run the module, the patterns will be pulled in automatically, you'll be given an option to choose any (or maybe more than one) of the three virtualization technologies, install the libvirt management tools, be given an option to allow br0 (enabling bridging networking to the physical network, and set you up with a standard, working configuration.

    In other words, you'll be off to a much better start than if you simply installed the necessary packages.
    On the other hand, if you want to do things the hard way, then you can install only a pattern or click on the "details" button in your screenshot and find your Xen packages by either searching for the packages individually or viewing as package groups. And then, you might end up posting to this Forum asking about things that would have been set up automatically by YaST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsu2 View Post
    You're just looking at patterns, and if I had my druthers the KVM pattern you identified should be hidden to avoid mistakes like what you would have made if you had found a Xen pattern.

    In openSUSE,
    The proper way to install Xen, KVM and LXC is to use the YaST Virtualization install module.
    When you run the module, the patterns will be pulled in automatically, you'll be given an option to choose any (or maybe more than one) of the three virtualization technologies, install the libvirt management tools, be given an option to allow br0 (enabling bridging networking to the physical network, and set you up with a standard, working configuration.

    In other words, you'll be off to a much better start than if you simply installed the necessary packages.
    On the other hand, if you want to do things the hard way, then you can install only a pattern or click on the "details" button in your screenshot and find your Xen packages by either searching for the packages individually or viewing as package groups. And then, you might end up posting to this Forum asking about things that would have been set up automatically by YaST.

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    It is a wrong movement from SUSE. Why its name is not "Xen Virtualization Host and Tools" ?
    KVM is not a real hypervisor and it just a type-2 hypervisor. SUSE have discriminated and preferred a type-2 hypervisor or a type-1 hypervisor.
    In other words, it mean that SUSE is not an independent open source company and is under Red Hat company control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hack3rcon View Post
    It is a wrong movement from SUSE. Why its name is not "Xen Virtualization Host and Tools" ?
    It is. I am currently looking at Yast Software Management, the Patterns view.

    There's a "XEN Virtualization Host and tools"

    Below that, there's a "KVM Virtualization Host and tools".

    They are both there.

    The image that you posted shows what is available when only using the DVD. If you had enabled online repos during your install, you would have seen the line for XEN. The DVD has limited capacity, so they omitted the XEN stuff from what is on the DVD. You can install that later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    It is. I am currently looking at Yast Software Management, the Patterns view.

    There's a "XEN Virtualization Host and tools"

    Below that, there's a "KVM Virtualization Host and tools".

    They are both there.

    The image that you posted shows what is available when only using the DVD. If you had enabled online repos during your install, you would have seen the line for XEN. The DVD has limited capacity, so they omitted the XEN stuff from what is on the DVD. You can install that later.
    Why not omitted KVM ? Why Xen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hack3rcon View Post
    Why not omitted KVM ? Why Xen?
    Don't ask me. I'm just a user. I don't make policy.
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    Default Re: OpenSUSE forgot Xen Virtualization?

    On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 21:36:03 +0000, hack3rcon wrote:

    > nrickert;2905148 Wrote:
    >> It is. I am currently looking at Yast Software Management, the
    >> Patterns view.
    >>
    >> There's a "XEN Virtualization Host and tools"
    >>
    >> Below that, there's a "KVM Virtualization Host and tools".
    >>
    >> They are both there.
    >>
    >> The image that you posted shows what is available when only using the
    >> DVD. If you had enabled online repos during your install, you would
    >> have seen the line for XEN. The DVD has limited capacity, so they
    >> omitted the XEN stuff from what is on the DVD. You can install that
    >> later.

    > Why not omitted KVM ? Why Xen?


    It's a project decision. SUSE probably had nothing to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendersj View Post
    On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 21:36:03 +0000, hack3rcon wrote:

    > nrickert;2905148 Wrote:
    >> It is. I am currently looking at Yast Software Management, the
    >> Patterns view.
    >>
    >> There's a "XEN Virtualization Host and tools"
    >>
    >> Below that, there's a "KVM Virtualization Host and tools".
    >>
    >> They are both there.
    >>
    >> The image that you posted shows what is available when only using the
    >> DVD. If you had enabled online repos during your install, you would
    >> have seen the line for XEN. The DVD has limited capacity, so they
    >> omitted the XEN stuff from what is on the DVD. You can install that
    >> later.

    > Why not omitted KVM ? Why Xen?


    It's a project decision. SUSE probably had nothing to do with it.

    Jim



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    SUSE not applying any policy on OpenSUSE project? Odd and funny!!!

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    Default Re: OpenSUSE forgot Xen Virtualization?

    On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 21:26:03 +0000, hack3rcon wrote:

    > SUSE not applying any policy on OpenSUSE project? Odd and funny!!!


    Lots of SUSE developers work on the openSUSE project, but the openSUSE
    Project is a *community* project, not a SUSE project. Same as Fedora is
    the community project sponsored by RedHat.

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