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    Default Re: OpenSUSE forgot Xen Virtualization?

    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    Hi
    You can talk to anyone contributing to the project, via these Forums,
    IRC or Mailing Lists.....

    http://en.opensuse.org/Communicate

    openSUSE isn't a company (or even a Foundation... yet...) it's a
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    Who is the administrator of Virtualization section or who is the designer of OpenSUSE installation?

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    Default Re: OpenSUSE forgot Xen Virtualization?

    On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 20:36:03 +0000, hack3rcon wrote:

    > tsu2;2905416 Wrote:
    >> Skimmed your forum thread reference,
    >> Nothing in it that changes anything.
    >> Nothing from Adobe or Microsoft (not surprising).
    >> Just a lot of complaints, opinions without basis, speculation and
    >> attitude.
    >>
    >> Nothing that moves the ball forward.
    >>
    >> TSU

    >
    > Are you a Red Hat agent? Your boss gave money to the SUSE for KVM?


    Consider this a warning: You are engaging in personal attacks, and that
    is not permitted here.

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    Default Re: OpenSUSE forgot Xen Virtualization?

    On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 20:26:02 +0000, hack3rcon wrote:

    > You move the truth to the soapbox?
    > I very like to talk to OpenSUSE founder or Virtualization leader.
    > Be a real Open Source and independent company


    This set of forums is users providing peer support.

    If you want to talk to the project developers, the place to do that is on
    the mailing lists.

    That said, your assumptions are so factually incorrect as to not be worth
    my time to respond to.

    You don't have an understanding of how open source works; you make a bad
    assumption that a package format defines a distribution's lineage (it
    doesn't). You make a bad assumption that money must have changed hands
    to get "Red Hat's virtualization technology" into openSUSE (it didn't).

    Open Source is about the code being available to anyone who wants to use
    it, and what gets included is driven primarily by one thing: Someone
    stepping up to do the work. None of it happens without a maintainer. KVM
    is included because someone said "I'd like this to be in this
    distribution, and I'm willing to do the work" - and they did the work and
    it was accepted by the project.

    Simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendersj View Post
    On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 20:26:02 +0000, hack3rcon wrote:

    > You move the truth to the soapbox?
    > I very like to talk to OpenSUSE founder or Virtualization leader.
    > Be a real Open Source and independent company


    This set of forums is users providing peer support.

    If you want to talk to the project developers, the place to do that is on
    the mailing lists.

    That said, your assumptions are so factually incorrect as to not be worth
    my time to respond to.

    You don't have an understanding of how open source works; you make a bad
    assumption that a package format defines a distribution's lineage (it
    doesn't). You make a bad assumption that money must have changed hands
    to get "Red Hat's virtualization technology" into openSUSE (it didn't).

    Open Source is about the code being available to anyone who wants to use
    it, and what gets included is driven primarily by one thing: Someone
    stepping up to do the work. None of it happens without a maintainer. KVM
    is included because someone said "I'd like this to be in this
    distribution, and I'm willing to do the work" - and they did the work and
    it was accepted by the project.

    Simple as that.

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    I know how Open Source work.
    You said "KVM is included because someone said "I'd like this to be in this distribution, and I'm willing to do the work" - and they did the work and it was accepted by the project", thus Xen developers never said the same words?

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    Default Re: OpenSUSE forgot Xen Virtualization?

    Quote Originally Posted by hack3rcon View Post
    I know how Open Source work.
    You said "KVM is included because someone said "I'd like this to be in this distribution, and I'm willing to do the work" - and they did the work and it was accepted by the project", thus Xen developers never said the same words?
    I don't understand this repeated complaint about Xen. It is there. Yes, it was not on the DVD installer, but it is part of the distro. It is in the repos. The pattern is there for you to install.



    It's just above the KVM entry.
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    Default Re: OpenSUSE forgot Xen Virtualization?

    On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 09:26:03 +0000, hack3rcon wrote:

    > I know how Open Source work.


    It would seem that you don't fully understand it, because you make
    assumptions about who "owns" the code based on the contributions.

    > You said "KVM is included because someone said "I'd like this to be in
    > this distribution, and I'm willing to do the work" - and they did the
    > work and it was accepted by the project", thus Xen developers never said
    > the same words?


    It's not the KVM developers (or Xen developers, or whomever). It's
    someone taking ownership of packaging that code and building tests into
    the test suite to make sure that it's working the way it should.

    Kernel-level stuff does take some testing.

    But as nrickert points out, Xen *is* available as an installation option
    for openSUSE.



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    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    I don't understand this repeated complaint about Xen. It is there. Yes, it was not on the DVD installer, but it is part of the distro. It is in the repos. The pattern is there for you to install.



    It's just above the KVM entry.
    Why Xen is not on the DVD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendersj View Post
    On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 09:26:03 +0000, hack3rcon wrote:

    > I know how Open Source work.


    It would seem that you don't fully understand it, because you make
    assumptions about who "owns" the code based on the contributions.

    > You said "KVM is included because someone said "I'd like this to be in
    > this distribution, and I'm willing to do the work" - and they did the
    > work and it was accepted by the project", thus Xen developers never said
    > the same words?


    It's not the KVM developers (or Xen developers, or whomever). It's
    someone taking ownership of packaging that code and building tests into
    the test suite to make sure that it's working the way it should.

    Kernel-level stuff does take some testing.

    But as nrickert points out, Xen *is* available as an installation option
    for openSUSE.



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    How can I talk to the kernel-level stuff?

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    Default Re: OpenSUSE forgot Xen Virtualization?

    Quote Originally Posted by hack3rcon View Post
    Why Xen is not on the DVD?
    You would have to ask the people who make those decisions.

    If it were up to me, then Xen would be low priority for going on the DVD, while desktop environments would be higher priority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    You would have to ask the people who make those decisions.

    If it were up to me, then Xen would be low priority for going on the DVD, while desktop environments would be higher priority.
    How can I find the people that did those decision?
    Why in your opinion, Xen must not on the DVD? If it is because of Xen is type-1 and KVM is type-2 then why KVM and not Oracle VirtualBox?

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