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    Lightbulb Current openSUSE 15.1 Beta - The Good and the ?

    As the launch for 15.1 approaches (sometime next month), this Forum thread is intended to note what is new for the Benefit of all Users.

    Starting off this Forum thread,

    The openSUSE Install (I'm cukrrently looking at the DVD upgrading a 42.3) has major changes, so far mostly for the better. I've posted before about the changes I've seen in a 15.0 install after "Configure Online Repositories," it downloads and installs the new installer used in 15.1.

    Additionally, when you look in the YaST Software Software Management, there are now a number of new features and ways to view Patterns, package groups, packages by status (eg Orphaned, more).

    Take some time an dexplore, it'll be worthwhile.

    Curiously, I did not see the Enlightenment Desktop in the Patterns view at first, but after I did a search for Enlightenment to verify it still existed, it suddenly showed up in the Patterns View.

    There is now an "Other Desktops" RPM group which lists not just full Desktops but also all available Windows Managers. Does that mean that you can now easily install "just" a Windows Manager besides IceWM in the initial install? That's something to explore for machines with very limited hardware resources or even containers. You'll also find Cinnamon listed along with other Desktops here which almost uniquely isn't installed using a pattern.

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    Default Re: Current openSUSE 15.1 Beta - The Good and the ?

    IIRC from Leap 15.0 a lot of patterns package were only added shortly before the freeze. That would explain why you see missing patterns packages.

    I've just updated my Leap 15.1 VM and everything seems to play nicely. The installer IMHO has hugely improved. One can easily see in which stage of the install one is, the partitioner has lots of new options ( though I miss the old option to import the partitioning from an existing install incl. mount-points. Not a big problem for me, I label all my partitions to be able to recognize them, but I've always loved that feature.
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    Default Re: Current openSUSE 15.1 Beta - The Good and the ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knurpht View Post
    ( though I miss the old option to import the partitioning from an existing install incl. mount-points. Not a big problem for me, I label all my partitions to be able to recognize them, but I've always loved that feature.
    It is still there. It is just harder to find. It's on the expert partitioner screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    It is still there. It is just harder to find. It's on the expert partitioner screen.
    No, it imports the partitioning, but not the mountpoints. Sure I've seen that ( some friends noticed as well ), also on TW, but I'll download again and fire up the installer later this evening.
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    Skimming through the YaST "Users and Groups" section,

    One thing I noticed now (Will have to see if it existed before) in "Authentication Settings" tab (I didn't notice that before, too but that might be me)

    There's a nice feature to view any kind of Authentication settings which can at a glance reveal what is controlling your machine's access... NIS, SSSD and a curious "SAMBA" setting which when activated looks for an AD server. That's all well and good considering current state of SAMBA 4 as a near drop-in replacement AD DC, but could be a bit confusing to the User who doesn't know about the close integration. I also wonder if this could pick up on a LDAP server, or if configured as an LDAP client whether a new entry for that would appear...

    I also don't remember this tool mentioned in the LEAP documentation for each of these authentication methods, I haven't looked in the online LEAP "Security and Hardening" book for this... but will do so later tonight...

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    Skimming through the YaST "Security and Hardening" section,

    One thing I noticed now (Will have to see if it existed before) in "Miscellaneous Settings" tab (I didn't notice that before, too but that might be me)

    "Help" suggests there is a missing configurations to add the current working directory to the root or user paths making behavior "MSWindows" rather than true "Unix"

    Since at the moment it's a missing configuration, it's only buried in the "Help" but if it's exposed then it becomes a possibly new and important thing to know regarding paths...

    First, it'd possibly become more important to close unnecessary consoles so that paths won't unwittingly extend to assumed secure folders,
    And, I wonder then if the "./" would not become necessary to execute a binary in the current folder.

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    Default Re: Current openSUSE 15.1 Beta - The Good and the ?

    Regarding the Firewall,

    When upgrading from 42.3 which of course wausing firewalld (was using SuSEFW2), it looks like the firewall firewalld isn't enabled by default(firewall-config launched immediately without additional installation as expected).
    I can'remember specifically what the setting was when I upgraded, but until now the default has always been to enable(and start) the firewall.

    Until I do another 42.3 upgrade, I won't know if this is simplya "feature" where the setting was disabled in the Install Summary or a real bug where it should be enabled as expected and somehow the setting wasn't enabled properly.

    In any case, likely needs attention.

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    Default Re: Current openSUSE 15.1 Beta - The Good and the ?

    All looks good to me - with a clean install using kde. The only two issues I have had are:

    konqueror - the default engine 'webengine' causes an error message on closing but 'webkit' works fine

    fstab - the default yast setting for an old fat32 drive (with some data) is 'read only'. This is easily resolved by changing the settings in fstab from:

    vfat defaults 0 0

    to:

    vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0

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    Default Re: Current openSUSE 15.1 Beta - The Good and the ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knurpht View Post
    No, it imports the partitioning, but not the mountpoints.
    I used it for my last install. But it is not as natural to use as in the old installer, and I did have to look two or three times to be sure that it got the mount points right.
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    The installer will still use standard mount points, right? And I should have no problem telling it to not format /home in the expert partitioner, correct?
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