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    Default Desktop hangs at locale service

    OK, where was I at when another am-bu-lance ride to the hospital took me away for another week.

    Oh yeah, this booting problem with KDE
    My Hp Compaq desktop hangs aftert "starting local service" and on "started locale service". No HDD activity until I have to press the power button. Eventually it starts.

    More about this. It is starting from a Windows boot manager(not Grub, probably EasyBCD), sometimes blue screen on boot, sometimes black w/white text.
    Choices are Win10, Win7(I still need it, or maybe I don't need to make up my feeble mind), then Leap 15.

    I also get a message on boot to Leap that is something like "80 sectors changed to 16" (I can try to capture that if needed).

    Question, can I easily get it back to Grub boot menu and still have both Win10 and Win7 in a Grub boot menu?

    More important question is why the hangs a "starting and started locale service?
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    Default Re: Desktop hangs at locale service

    I forgot to add, that when I do select Leap 15, it does start a green screen Grub boot menu that has Leap15, Win10 and the other options that can be used to boot Leap.
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    Question Re: Desktop hangs at locale service

    @Bill_L:
    Did you begin using "EasyBCD" because of this "Stack Exchange" article: <https://unix.stackexchange.com/quest...and-windows-10>?
    • If so, please follow the 2nd answer …
    • For a "boot with GRUB2 only" system -- no "EasyBCD" -- the tip to manually edit "/etc/grub.d/40_custom" is possibly quite a good idea …

    There's the following openSUSE Reference Manual entry which deals with this issue: <https://doc.opensuse.org/documentati...cha.grub2.html>.
    This openSUSE SDB entry is a bit outdated but, it does mention "grub2-install" to help get things repaired: <https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Repair_M...indows_install>.
    • 'apropos grub' from a CLI prompt is also a possible follow-on help …

    There's also this "Linux Questions" question & answer entry: <https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ap-4175616442/>.

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    Default Re: Desktop hangs at locale service

    Thanks, good articles and links, but I should have included that the HP desktop is ‘legacy’ MBR. Most of the articles were alluding to UEFI.
    The Leap install is on its own HDD, and not the Windows HDD.
    NO, not the stack exchange, I don’t even know what that means. EasyBCD was used for dual booting Win10 and Win7 even before I was considering a Linux install.

    Maybe it is time to ditch windows 7, and EasyBCD, and reinstall Leap 15 new without any obstacles in the way to get a Grub boot menu first and not the Windows boot manager.
    Might clean up the hang up at the ‘started locale service’ as well.

    Hate to do it, but may be the best thing.

    Anyone know if there is a newer version of the DVD download?
    i would do the “dd if of” to write it to a USB stick.
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    Exclamation Re: Desktop hangs at locale service

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill_L View Post
    but I should have included that the HP desktop is ‘legacy’ MBR.
    Even with pre-UEFI boxes, it's usually better to install the Redmond product first and then, having reduced the primary Redmond partition size, install openSUSE …

    But, why dual-boot?
    • Given the "pre-UEFI" age of the box and, assuming that no more BIOS updates are available or, assuming that the BIOS may occasionally suffer an update and, the Redmond product isn't needed to perform the BIOS update (BIOS update via USB device from a BIOS menu-point … ), consider a "Linux-only" box …
    • If you ** really ** need "Redmond things" consider either:

    -- "Wine" -- be aware that, there a few « not many » "Redmond things" which don't execute in a Wine environment …
    -- "Redmond in a Virtual Machine" …
    ** I personally run Windows 10 licences in Oracle VirtualBox environments …

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    Default Re: Desktop hangs at locale service

    We are not down to the ROOT of my OP, WHICH IS>>>> why does it hang at the "starting locale service" and then :"started locale service.
    Hangs for 1 or 2 minutes, then a cursor shows up, then it does NOTHING!
    After power downs and more power ups it FINALLY gets past the cursor(after another minute or so), and THEN KDE takes it's own sweet time.

    I can live with slowness. I don't like having to live with multiple starts because Leap (on this machine) doesn't know how to complete a clean boot.
    NEVER use to until an update between hospital visits.

    About to have to jerk the front off and do a hot wire because I am wearing the PC's power button out!

    So, please address my hang ups during boot. I need windows and it stays.

    WHY DO I DUAL BOOT YOU ASKED!
    I dual boot because I NEED Windows(Redmond, windoze, what---ever) for printing. IF I didn't I wouldn't!
    enough said about that!
    But Windows has been on this HP Compaq for ages(XP Pro, Windows 7, then windows 10 and Win 7(DUAL BOOT).

    I had an extra HDD and didn't want to muck around with the Windows HDD, So that is where I put Leap. EasyBCD found it and added it to it's boot menu.

    The Windows(Redmond, windoze, etc) were already set up as dual boot with the EasyBCD boot manager.
    So I put Leap into EasyBCD9 (YEAH YEAH I know, MISTAKE!).

    That should take care of SOME of your concerns.

    But we are not down to the ROOT of my OP, WHICH IS>>>> why does it hang at the "starting locale service" and then :"started locale service.

    NEVER use to until an update between hospital visits.

    About to have to jerk the front off and do a hot wire because I am wearing the PC's power button out!

    So, please address my hang ups during boot. I need windows and it stays.
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    Default Re: Desktop hangs at locale service

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill_L View Post
    We are not down to the ROOT of my OP, WHICH IS>>>> why does it hang at the "starting locale service" and then :"started locale service.
    Hangs for 1 or 2 minutes, then a cursor shows up, then it does NOTHING!
    After a successful boot, examine the log file for any errors during boot.

    Code:
    sudo journalctl -b > log.txt
    will output all logs since the last system boot into a file called log.txt. Change the file name to anything you want. Then search for Locale Service and see what errors show up after that service is started. Post the relevant output here.

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    Default Re: Desktop hangs at locale service

    Quote Originally Posted by z2 View Post
    After a successful boot, examine the log file for any errors during boot.

    Code:
    sudo journalctl -b > log.txt
    will output all logs since the last system boot into a file called log.txt. Change the file name to anything you want. Then search for Locale Service and see what errors show up after that service is started. Post the relevant output here.
    It was a good clean boot last time, without having to ‘power down’ at 5he hang spot, and restart, no log file found.
    I will check the next time it hangs to see of a log file is put in place.

    Thanks for your reply.
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    Default Re: Desktop hangs at locale service

    Quote Originally Posted by dcurtisfra View Post
    But, why dual-boot?
    I would think the OP dual-boots with Windows because the OP wants to dual-boot with Windows.

    ... at least, that would be the way I would see it.

    Thanks, Don, but I would like to see the answer to the question in the OP, instead, in case someone else runs into the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill_L View Post
    It was a good clean boot last time, without having to ‘power down’ at 5he hang spot, and restart, no log file found.
    I will check the next time it hangs to see of a log file is put in place.

    Thanks for your reply.
    The log file is just the output from the journalctl command. The system keeps a journal (or log) of everything that occurs while the computer is running. So, if you run the journalctl command I mentioned in a terminal window, it will output all the logs from the current session into a file, but you have to do it manually. I figured that would be an easy way to search it for errors. You should be able to generate a log file regardless of whether or not there are any errors.

    For more info you can type
    Code:
    man journalctl
    in a terminal window.

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