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    Default openSUSE blog syslogng vs journald

    A link to this blog just popped up in the openSUSE news feed,
    Thought that the topic is important enough to repost the link here.

    https://news.opensuse.org/2018/04/30...emds-journald/

    For those who aren't aware of these two logging methods, the journal is the current standard method of storing and reading system (and some other) log files, essential to improving how your system runs and troubleshooting errors. In many ways, it's a big improvement over what existed before which were individual syslog text files which requires search and parsing skills plus didn't always have the information you needed.

    As the blog describes,
    This is fine if you only want to look at logs on your local machine, but this breaks down when you want to look for something across several machines in your network. Today, the systemd journal not only is mostly limited to reading local logs, as a newer technology many older at times very powerful apps don't support collecting data directly from the journal.

    To provide that traditional versatility, enter syslog-ng.
    Enhanced, syslog-ng not only exports the journal log data into the older, traditional format for use with a multitude of tools, it's also by itself a powerful tool for parsing what you want from the data.

    The blog is short, and probably a worthwhile read no matter what level openSUSE User you may be.

    IMO,
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    Default Re: openSUSE blog syslogng vs journald

    Code:
    zypper in syslog-ng
    Retrieving repository 'Packman Repository' metadata .........................[done]
    Building repository 'Packman Repository' cache ..............................[done]
    Loading repository data...
    Reading installed packages...
    Resolving package dependencies...
    
    Problem: systemd-logger-237-4.1.x86_64 conflicts with namespace:otherproviders(sysl
    og) provided by syslog-ng-3.14.1-1.1.x86_64
     Solution 1: deinstallation of systemd-logger-237-4.1.x86_64
     Solution 2: do not install syslog-ng-3.14.1-1.1.x86_64
    
    Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/c] (c): c
    
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    Default Re: openSUSE blog syslogng vs journald

    Quote Originally Posted by another_roadrunner View Post
    Code:
    zypper in syslog-ng
    Retrieving repository 'Packman Repository' metadata .........................[done]
    Building repository 'Packman Repository' cache ..............................[done]
    Loading repository data...
    Reading installed packages...
    Resolving package dependencies...
    
    Problem: systemd-logger-237-4.1.x86_64 conflicts with namespace:otherproviders(sysl
    og) provided by syslog-ng-3.14.1-1.1.x86_64
     Solution 1: deinstallation of systemd-logger-237-4.1.x86_64
     Solution 2: do not install syslog-ng-3.14.1-1.1.x86_64
    
    Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/c] (c): c
    
    TW+KDE
    To me,
    That looks like something that should be submitted to https://bugzilla.opensuse.org
    Namespace collision errors can be missed, and should be easy for someone to fix.
    If you haven't submitted a bug before, do so and become a contributing member(and should be easy to do)!

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    Default Re: openSUSE blog syslogng vs journald

    Please, don't laugh of me.
    I never submitted a bug.
    I will try.
    Wish me luck.

    I submitted it.

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    Default Re: openSUSE blog syslogng vs journald

    Quote Originally Posted by another_roadrunner View Post
    Please, don't laugh of me.
    I never submitted a bug.
    I will try.
    Wish me luck.

    I submitted it.
    It is a good idea to post a link to the bug report here. Then others can confirm, add information, etc.
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: openSUSE blog syslogng vs journald

    Sorry. I do not know how to proceed.
    This is the link
    https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1091478

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    Default Re: openSUSE blog syslogng vs journald

    Quote Originally Posted by another_roadrunner View Post
    Sorry. I do not know how to proceed.
    This is the link
    https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1091478
    Thanks a lot.
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: openSUSE blog syslogng vs journald

    You're welcome.

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    Default Re: openSUSE blog syslogng vs journald

    I have the answer.
    Pick 1.

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    Default Re: openSUSE blog syslogng vs journald

    The problem is that without inside information you can not be sure if it is a good idea to uninstall something else.
    Henk van Velden

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