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    Question Update Changes in Tumbleweed

    Hello -

    <sorry if this is not in the right forums location, please move it or let me know where to put this>

    Not being as fluent with openSUSE as I was with Mint/Ubuntu, where can I see a list of changes that have occurred in my latest Tumbleweed update? I am running KDE and only ever let the Software Update system tool (sorry I don't know the technical term for it on suse, but the tool that's in the taskbar at the bottom right of KDE) download and install updates for me - I don't zypper up or dup or use YaST (although I wouldn't be surprised if it's using this in the background during updates). The most recent round of updates completely changed the Tumbleweed startup screen (much cleaner/polished look), the loading screen (a moving infinity/Tumbleweed logo), the login screen background and even the desktop background were auto-updated to a new picture (although I cannot find this pic in the wallpaper area or anything so it's strange). Everything seems to work fine and I really like the changes, just didn't know where I could see those specific updates to see why those changes were made...if all that makes sense.

    Any help would be appreciated!

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: Update Changes in Tumbleweed

    Use zypper dup instead "Software Updates"
    /var/log/zypp/history - you will see what you install, uninstall etc.
    Or yast, software management, extras, history.


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    Default Re: Update Changes in Tumbleweed

    All updates/changes (for the packages on the DVD at least) are announced on the opensuse-factory mailinglist.

    You can read the archives or find out how to subscribe here:
    https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/

    E.g. the announcement of the latest snapshot from today is here:
    https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-.../msg00532.html

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    Default Re: Update Changes in Tumbleweed

    Quote Originally Posted by EmpireITtech View Post

    Not being as fluent with openSUSE as I was with Mint/Ubuntu, where can I see a list of changes that have occurred in my latest Tumbleweed update? I am running KDE and only ever let the Software Update system tool (sorry I don't know the technical term for it on suse, but the tool that's in the taskbar at the bottom right of KDE) download and install updates for me - I don't zypper up or dup or use YaST (although I wouldn't be surprised if it's using this in the background during updates).
    Don't use the desktop software updater for openSUSE Tumbleweed, or you will run into problems. This is a rolling distro (constantly being upgraded in the form of newer snapshots). As already mentioned by another_roadrunner, use the following
    Code:
    zypper dup
    See here...
    https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed
    Once you are running Tumbleweed to get updates every time a new snapshot has been released enter the following command as root (ideally inside a screen session):
    zypper dup --no-allow-vendor-change
    *Note that '--no-allow-vendor-change' this is the default option now, so no need to specify explicitly for normal system upgrading.

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    Default Re: Update Changes in Tumbleweed

    Quote Originally Posted by deano_ferrari View Post
    Don't use the desktop software updater for openSUSE Tumbleweed, or you will run into problems.
    To be honest, I've uninstalled "Software Updates" so I am not tempted to use it.

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    Default Re: Update Changes in Tumbleweed

    Quote Originally Posted by another_roadrunner View Post
    To be honest, I've uninstalled "Software Updates" so I am not tempted to use it.
    I just turn it off, in System Tray Settings.
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    Default Re: Update Changes in Tumbleweed

    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    I just turn it off, in System Tray Settings.
    I know but I prefer to uninstall all I do not need (and then "zypper al").

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    Default Re: Update Changes in Tumbleweed

    Quote Originally Posted by another_roadrunner View Post
    To be honest, I've uninstalled "Software Updates" so I am not tempted to use it.
    You can use it for notification with the following settings:


    Code:
    erlangen:~ # grep -v ^# /etc/sysconfig/packagekit-background 
    ENABLED="yes"
    
    CHECK_ONLY="yes"
    
    MAILTO="karl"
    
    SYSTEM_NAME=""
    
    SLEEP_MAX="3600"
    
    UPDATE_OFFLINE="no"
    erlangen:~ #
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    Default Re: Update Changes in Tumbleweed

    Quote Originally Posted by karlmistelberger View Post
    You can use it for notification with the following settings:


    Code:
    erlangen:~ # grep -v ^# /etc/sysconfig/packagekit-background 
    ENABLED="yes"
    
    CHECK_ONLY="yes"
    
    MAILTO="karl"
    
    SYSTEM_NAME=""
    
    SLEEP_MAX="3600"
    
    UPDATE_OFFLINE="no"
    erlangen:~ #
    Good to know. Thank you.

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    Default Re: Update Changes in Tumbleweed

    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    I just turn it off, in System Tray Settings.
    Great idea - I went into "Software Update Settings" and there's no option for "off", just have daily, weekly, and monthly interval options..?

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