VLC and Kaffeine is flickering the videos, while Dragon Player and MPlayer doesn't

**viniciusbrbio** · 25-Mar-2018, 07:23

Hi,

VLC and Kaffeine is flickering the videos, while Dragon Player and MPlayer doesn't. My system is already updated from Packman.

What could cause this? Does these players using different plugins, backend or what?

I'm using Leap 42.3 with KDE.

Many thanks

**gogalthorp** · 25-Mar-2018, 09:01

Video card and driver???

**I_A** · 25-Mar-2018, 11:47

kaffeine uses libxine as a backend (unless you've installed the package from kde:extra which uses libvlc)
I'd recommend checking if you have the vlc-plugin-gstreamer installed in which case vlc uses gstreamer as a backend

Code:

zypper se -si vlc-plugin-gstreamer

if it's there remove it

Code:

zypper rm vlc-plugin-gstreamer

what version of kaffeine do you have?

Code:

zypper se -si kaffeine

another thing to consider is that by default vlc uses hardware acceleration via the vdpau interface and while this works good on nvidia devices with the propitiatory nvidia driver it can cause issues on intel and some amd chips, if you have an nvidia card install the propitiatory driver if you're using intel's buildin gpu use va-api (in vlc options) or disable hardware acceleration, what is your gpu

Code:

sudo lspci | grep VGA

afaik mplayer has been depreciated and replaced with mpv and dragon uses phonon as a media framework which in turn uses gstreamer by default (it can be made to use libvlc) and gstreamer uses hardware acceleration appropriate for your hardware va-api or vdpau or none (unlike vlc which defaults to vdpau)
there are too many variable's for us to guess why your system is acting the way it is some more info is needed

**viniciusbrbio** · 25-Mar-2018, 16:37

Originally Posted by gogalthorp

Video card and driver???

I'm using Intel.

Code:

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)

**viniciusbrbio** · 25-Mar-2018, 16:44

Originally Posted by I_A

kaffeine uses libxine as a backend (unless you've installed the package from kde:extra which uses libvlc)
I'd recommend checking if you have the vlc-plugin-gstreamer installed in which case vlc uses gstreamer as a backend

Code:

zypper se -si vlc-plugin-gstreamer

if it's there remove it

Code:

zypper rm vlc-plugin-gstreamer

what version of kaffeine do you have?

Code:

zypper se -si kaffeine

another thing to consider is that by default vlc uses hardware acceleration via the vdpau interface and while this works good on nvidia devices with the propitiatory nvidia driver it can cause issues on intel and some amd chips, if you have an nvidia card install the propitiatory driver if you're using intel's buildin gpu use va-api (in vlc options) or disable hardware acceleration, what is your gpu

Code:

sudo lspci | grep VGA

afaik mplayer has been depreciated and replaced with mpv and dragon uses phonon as a media framework which in turn uses gstreamer by default (it can be made to use libvlc) and gstreamer uses hardware acceleration appropriate for your hardware va-api or vdpau or none (unlike vlc which defaults to vdpau)
there are too many variable's for us to guess why your system is acting the way it is some more info is needed

In fact, I'm using the KDE:Extra repo.

Code:

viniciusbr@linux-hwbe:~> sudo zypper se -si vlc-plugin-gstreamer
[sudo] senha para root: 
Baixando os metadados do repositório 'KDE:Extra' .......................................[concluído]
Construindo o cache do repositório 'KDE:Extra' .........................................[concluído]
Carregando dados do repositório...
Lendo os pacotes instalados...

S  | Nome             | Tipo       | Versão | Arquitetura | Repositório              
---+------------------+------------+--------+-------------+--------------------------
i+ | VLC Media player | aplicativo |        | noarch      | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Oss   
i+ | VLC Media player | aplicativo |        | noarch      | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update

There is no "vlc-plugin-gstreamer", but "vlc-codec-gstreamer". I removed it as suggested but still flickering.

Kaffeine version:

Code:

viniciusbr@linux-hwbe:~> zypper se -si kaffeine
Carregando dados do repositório...
Lendo os pacotes instalados...

S  | Nome          | Tipo       | Versão      | Arquitetura | Repositório         
---+---------------+------------+-------------+-------------+---------------------
i+ | Kaffeine      | aplicativo |             | noarch      | (Pacotes do sistema)
i+ | kaffeine      | pacote     | 2.0.14-67.2 | x86_64      | KDE:Extra           
i+ | kaffeine-lang | pacote     | 2.0.14-67.2 | noarch      | KDE:Extra

My video:

Code:

viniciusbr@linux-hwbe:~> sudo lspci | grep VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)

**I_A** · 27-Mar-2018, 11:45

Originally Posted by viniciusbrbio

In fact, I'm using the KDE:Extra repo.

Code:

viniciusbr@linux-hwbe:~> sudo zypper se -si vlc-plugin-gstreamer
[sudo] senha para root: 
Baixando os metadados do repositório 'KDE:Extra' .......................................[concluído]
Construindo o cache do repositório 'KDE:Extra' .........................................[concluído]
Carregando dados do repositório...
Lendo os pacotes instalados...

S  | Nome             | Tipo       | Versão | Arquitetura | Repositório              
---+------------------+------------+--------+-------------+--------------------------
i+ | VLC Media player | aplicativo |        | noarch      | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Oss   
i+ | VLC Media player | aplicativo |        | noarch      | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update

There is no "vlc-plugin-gstreamer", but "vlc-codec-gstreamer". I removed it as suggested but still flickering.

Kaffeine version:

Code:

viniciusbr@linux-hwbe:~> zypper se -si kaffeine
Carregando dados do repositório...
Lendo os pacotes instalados...

S  | Nome          | Tipo       | Versão      | Arquitetura | Repositório         
---+---------------+------------+-------------+-------------+---------------------
i+ | Kaffeine      | aplicativo |             | noarch      | (Pacotes do sistema)
i+ | kaffeine      | pacote     | 2.0.14-67.2 | x86_64      | KDE:Extra           
i+ | kaffeine-lang | pacote     | 2.0.14-67.2 | noarch      | KDE:Extra

My video:

Code:

viniciusbr@linux-hwbe:~> sudo lspci | grep VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)

I was working out of memory, there is a known issue with vlc and vdpau on intel chips in vlc you should just select va-api in vlc prefferences

picture's not mine found it with google search but I get the same options on nvidia

about kaffeine you are using 2.0 one that uses libvlc as a backend I don't know how to configure that video backend with that version
as intel does not natively support vdpau you could try uninstalling libvdpau1 that should prevent vlc and kaffeine using vdpau

Code:

zypper rm libvdpau1

just keep an eye on the dependencies
or play with the libvlc options in kaffeine

**I_A** · 27-Mar-2018, 11:58

Originally Posted by viniciusbrbio

In fact, I'm using the KDE:Extra repo.

Code:

viniciusbr@linux-hwbe:~> sudo zypper se -si vlc-plugin-gstreamer
[sudo] senha para root: 
Baixando os metadados do repositório 'KDE:Extra' .......................................[concluído]
Construindo o cache do repositório 'KDE:Extra' .........................................[concluído]
Carregando dados do repositório...
Lendo os pacotes instalados...

S  | Nome             | Tipo       | Versão | Arquitetura | Repositório              
---+------------------+------------+--------+-------------+--------------------------
i+ | VLC Media player | aplicativo |        | noarch      | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Oss   
i+ | VLC Media player | aplicativo |        | noarch      | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update

one more thing you seam to have vlc from the opensuse repo's if patented video's play (h263 h264 h265 etc) I'm assuming you also have the packman repo's but you didn't do a full vendor change and you have mixed packages
this might cause some issues so
what is your repo list

Code:

zypper lr -d

**viniciusbrbio** · 27-Mar-2018, 13:53

Originally Posted by I_A

I was working out of memory, there is a known issue with vlc and vdpau on intel chips in vlc you should just select va-api in vlc prefferences

picture's not mine found it with google search but I get the same options on nvidia

about kaffeine you are using 2.0 one that uses libvlc as a backend I don't know how to configure that video backend with that version
as intel does not natively support vdpau you could try uninstalling libvdpau1 that should prevent vlc and kaffeine using vdpau

Code:

zypper rm libvdpau1

just keep an eye on the dependencies
or play with the libvlc options in kaffeine

I changed to va-api via x11 and worked fine! Many thanks

**viniciusbrbio** · 27-Mar-2018, 13:54

Originally Posted by I_A

one more thing you seam to have vlc from the opensuse repo's if patented video's play (h263 h264 h265 etc) I'm assuming you also have the packman repo's but you didn't do a full vendor change and you have mixed packages
this might cause some issues so
what is your repo list

Code:

zypper lr -d

Code:

viniciusbr@linux-hwbe:~> zypper lr -d
As prioridades de repositório não possuem efeito algum. Todos os repositórios habilitados possuem a mesma prioridade.

#  | Apelido                             | Nome                                    | Habilitado | Verificação GPG | Atualizar | Prioridade | Tipo   | URI                                                                             | Serviço
---+-------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+-----------------+-----------+------------+--------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
 1 | MEGAsync                            | MEGAsync                                | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | rpm-md | https://mega.nz/linux/MEGAsync/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/                              |        
 2 | http-download.opensuse.org-4533bd1f | KDE:Extra                               | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/        |        
 3 | http-download.opensuse.org-a2f2ae0e | LibreOffice:6.0                         | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/6.0/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/  |        
 4 | http-download.opensuse.org-a633788e | home:snwh:paper                         | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/snwh:/paper/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/ |        
 5 | http-download.opensuse.org-c2a91ff2 | Emulators                               | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Emulators/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/         |        
 6 | http-download.opensuse.org-e34c0d26 | mozilla                                 | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/           |        
 7 | libdvdcss                           | libdvdcss                               | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | rpm-md | http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/                              |        
 8 | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0                | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0                    | Não        | ----            | ----      |   99       | yast2  | cd:///?devices=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-MATSHITADVD-RAM_UJ8C2_S_HR33_525084          |        
 9 | packman                             | packman                                 | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | rpm-md | http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/              |        
10 | repo-debug                          | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug                | Não        | ----            | ----      |   99       | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/oss/             |        
11 | repo-debug-non-oss                  | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug-Non-Oss        | Não        | ----            | ----      |   99       | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/non-oss/         |        
12 | repo-debug-update                   | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug         | Não        | ----            | ----      |   99       | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/42.3/oss/                        |        
13 | repo-debug-update-non-oss           | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug-Non-Oss | Não        | ----            | ----      |   99       | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/42.3/non-oss/                    |        
14 | repo-non-oss                        | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Non-Oss              | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/non-oss/               |        
15 | repo-oss                            | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Oss                  | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/oss/                   |        
16 | repo-source                         | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source               | Não        | ----            | ----      |   99       | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/oss/            |        
17 | repo-source-non-oss                 | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source-Non-Oss       | Não        | ----            | ----      |   99       | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/non-oss/        |        
18 | repo-update                         | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update               | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/oss/                              |        
19 | repo-update-non-oss                 | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Non-Oss       | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/non-oss/

**I_A** · 28-Mar-2018, 05:16

Originally Posted by viniciusbrbio

Code:

viniciusbr@linux-hwbe:~> zypper lr -d
As prioridades de repositório não possuem efeito algum. Todos os repositórios habilitados possuem a mesma prioridade.

#  | Apelido                             | Nome                                    | Habilitado | Verificação GPG | Atualizar | Prioridade | Tipo   | URI                                                                             | Serviço
---+-------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+------------+-----------------+-----------+------------+--------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
 1 | MEGAsync                            | MEGAsync                                | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | rpm-md | https://mega.nz/linux/MEGAsync/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/                              |        
 2 | http-download.opensuse.org-4533bd1f | KDE:Extra                               | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/        |        
 3 | http-download.opensuse.org-a2f2ae0e | LibreOffice:6.0                         | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/6.0/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/  |        
 4 | http-download.opensuse.org-a633788e | home:snwh:paper                         | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/snwh:/paper/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/ |        
 5 | http-download.opensuse.org-c2a91ff2 | Emulators                               | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Emulators/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/         |        
 6 | http-download.opensuse.org-e34c0d26 | mozilla                                 | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/           |        
 7 | libdvdcss                           | libdvdcss                               | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | rpm-md | http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/                              |        
 8 | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0                | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0                    | Não        | ----            | ----      |   99       | yast2  | cd:///?devices=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-MATSHITADVD-RAM_UJ8C2_S_HR33_525084          |        
  9 | packman                             | packman                                 | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | rpm-md | http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/              |        
10 | repo-debug                          | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug                | Não        | ----            | ----      |   99       | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/oss/             |        
11 | repo-debug-non-oss                  | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug-Non-Oss        | Não        | ----            | ----      |   99       | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/non-oss/         |        
12 | repo-debug-update                   | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug         | Não        | ----            | ----      |   99       | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/42.3/oss/                        |        
13 | repo-debug-update-non-oss           | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug-Non-Oss | Não        | ----            | ----      |   99       | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/42.3/non-oss/                    |        
14 | repo-non-oss                        | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Non-Oss              | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/non-oss/               |        
15 | repo-oss                            | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Oss                  | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/oss/                   |        
16 | repo-source                         | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source               | Não        | ----            | ----      |   99       | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/oss/            |        
17 | repo-source-non-oss                 | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source-Non-Oss       | Não        | ----            | ----      |   99       | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/non-oss/        |        
18 | repo-update                         | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update               | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/oss/                              |        
19 | repo-update-non-oss                 | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Non-Oss       | Sim        | (r ) Sim        | Sim       |   99       | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/non-oss/

you should do

Code:

zypper dup --from 9

to make sure all your multimedia packages are from packman

Note: If you didn't migrate your openSUSE account in June 2020, you will need to create a new account with a different email!

NOTE January 2022 - Changes to Gstreamer and Pipewire packages from Packman

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