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    Default Emoticons - Leap 42.3

    I've just installed Leap 42.3 and now find emails (Kmail) with points introduced by "(a)" "(b)" etc. are changed to completely irrelevant pictures of beer mugs, etc.

    I'm unable to delete, modify or otherwise change the KDE emoticons "feature" although this is alleged to be possible. For example, double-clicking on the Breeze beer mug graphic in system-settings and changinig "(b)" to "(b))" then clicking Apply doesn't become permanent. Is there a bug here and, if so, when will it be fixed? Why isn't it possible to simply disable emoticons altogether?

    Is this the ultimate descent of OpenSuSE / KDE into triviality?

    David L.

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    Default Re: Emoticons - Leap 42.3

    Quote Originally Posted by dlochrin View Post
    Is there a bug here and, if so, when will it be fixed?
    If you think you found a bug, you should report it on bugs.kde.org so that the developers become aware of it.
    Otherwise it probably won't be fixed.


    Why isn't it possible to simply disable emoticons altogether?
    It should be possible to disable this in kmail's settings, IIRC.

    Is this the ultimate descent of OpenSuSE / KDE into triviality?
    I don't understand this question.

    This feature is not at all new, but exists since years (decades?).

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    Lightbulb Re: Emoticons - Leap 42.3

    The default Leap 42.3 KDE Emoticons are installed with the package "libKF5Emoticons5".

    The KF5 Emoticons are managed via "System Settings", section "Appearance", item "Icons (Icons, Emoticons)": <https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kde-...ons/index.html> KDE Doc: Module: kde-workspace.

    Unfortunately, I cannot find any method to change the behaviour of Emoticons installed via the "libKF5Emoticons5" package -- KF5 KMail simply uses the installed system emoticons.

    So, yes, please raise a KDE Change Request.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcurtisfra View Post
    KF5 KMail simply uses the installed system emoticons.
    Sure, but IIANM kmail does have an option to disable the use of emoticons completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    Sure, but IIANM kmail does have an option to disable the use of emoticons completely.
    PS: it's in the "View" menu...

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    Exclamation Re: Emoticons - Leap 42.3

    Found it!!!

    With the Leap 42.3 kmail2 version 5.5.2, the setting to change the Emoticons behaviour is "View" -->> "disable Emoticons".

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    Default Re: Emoticons - Leap 42.3

    Quote Originally Posted by dcurtisfra View Post
    Found it!!!

    With the Leap 42.3 kmail2 version 5.5.2, the setting to change the Emoticons behaviour is "View" -->> "disable Emoticons".
    Many thanks wolfi323 and dcurtisfra!! That fixes a very annoying problem which I've seen reported elsewhere.

    I'll check again whether it still seems impossible to disable emoticons at the system-settings level and, if so, raise a bug report. It would be nice to know the scope of usage, for example are they only used by PIM applications?

    Whatever the case, I suggest PIM (or KDE) is too ambitious and beginning to look bloated; perhaps it should become more modular. It would be nice to have one place where "features" like emoticons, baloo indexing, KDE Connect, and specific PIM applications could be enabled / disabled and optionally uninstalled.

    Thanks again...

    DavidL

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    Default Re: Emoticons - Leap 42.3

    But believe it or not, that setting (View > Disable Emoticon) is volatile, so it doesn't survive a Kmail restart.

    Does anyone know where this might be enabled in a config file?

    DavidL.

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    Default Re: Emoticons - Leap 42.3

    Quote Originally Posted by dlochrin View Post
    But believe it or not, that setting (View > Disable Emoticon) is volatile, so it doesn't survive a Kmail restart.

    DavidL.
    Pardon my replying to my own quote, but on second thoughts that Kmail problem and the emoticon problem I mentioned in my opening post [I'm unable to delete, modify or otherwise change the KDE emoticons "feature" although this is alleged to be possible.] may be just one bug. Kmail calls the emoticon program to disable them (only for Kmail, or for all KDE applications?) but it isn't written into the configuration.

    How do bugs like this ever get past testing? For that matter, is there any specification of what its supposed to do?

    DavidL.

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    Smile Re: Emoticons - Leap 42.3

    Quote Originally Posted by dlochrin View Post
    How do bugs like this ever get past testing? For that matter, is there any specification of what its supposed to do?
    The KDE folks have been discussing the pros and cons of the SUSE/openSUSE OpenQA and, they'll have to adopt it anyway for SUSE/openSUSE conformance.

    You're correct: the "disable Emoticons" is volatile; if there ain't a KDE Change Request then, there will be one, soon.

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