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    Default dragon-player does not play mp4 files - what can i do?

    dear Community,


    dragon-player does not play mp4 files - what can i do?
    i run OpenSuse 42.3


    how can i test this?!

    are there any tests with termial ?

    Love to hear from you
    dilbert ;-)
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  2. #2

    Default Re: dragon-player does not play mp4 files - what can i do?

    update:


    just have installed VLC-Player but there are some issues with Codecs:

    Codec are not supported
    VLC cannot read and decode the following formate: „h264“ (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10)) - i cannot decode the codec.
    what can i do now?!
    dilbert ;-)
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  3. #3

    Default Re: dragon-player does not play mp4 files - what can i do?

    according this thread:



    https://forums.opensuse.org/showthre...-FRESH-INSTALL
    i went this way

    Code:
    zypper ar -f ftp://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/ packman
    zypper dup --from packman
    zypper in vlc-codecs libxine2-codecs
    note the last line vlc-codecs does not exist in oss so only doing zypper dup --from packman is not enough you need to install vlc-codecs
    you mentioned packman but didn't tell us your repo list, what does this say


    Code:
    zypper lr -d
    well i think


    finally got stuck

    Code:
    linux-3645:/home/martin # ^C
    linux-3645:/home/martin # zypper lr -d
    Die Repository-Prioritäten sind ohne Effekt. Alle aktivierten Repositorys teilen sich die gleiche Priorität.
    
    #  | Alias                     | Name                                    | Aktiviert | GPG-Überprüfung | Aktualisierung | Priorität | Typ    | URI                                                                        | Dienst
    ---+---------------------------+-----------------------------------------+-----------+-----------------+----------------+-----------+--------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------
     1 | ecsos                     | ecsos                                   | Ja        | (r ) Ja         | Ja             |   99      | rpm-md | https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/ecsos/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/ |       
     2 | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0      | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0                    | Ja        | (r ) Ja         | Nein           |   99      | yast2  | cd:///?devices=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-hp_DVDRAM_GU90N_KMNZ8C81556             |       
     3 | packman                   | packman                                 | Ja        | (r ) Ja         | Ja             |   99      | rpm-md | ftp://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/                            |       
     4 | repo-debug                | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug                | Nein      | ----            | ----           |   99      | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/oss/        |       
     5 | repo-debug-non-oss        | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug-Non-Oss        | Nein      | ----            | ----           |   99      | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/non-oss/    |       
     6 | repo-debug-update         | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug         | Nein      | ----            | ----           |   99      | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/42.3/oss/                   |       
     7 | repo-debug-update-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug-Non-Oss | Nein      | ----            | ----           |   99      | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/42.3/non-oss/               |       
     8 | repo-non-oss              | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Non-Oss              | Ja        | (r ) Ja         | Ja             |   99      | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/non-oss/          |       
     9 | repo-oss                  | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Oss                  | Ja        | (r ) Ja         | Ja             |   99      | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/oss/              |       
    10 | repo-source               | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source               | Nein      | ----            | ----           |   99      | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/oss/       |       
    11 | repo-source-non-oss       | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source-Non-Oss       | Nein      | ----            | ----           |   99      | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/non-oss/   |       
    12 | repo-update               | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update               | Ja        | (r ) Ja         | Ja             |   99      | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/oss/                         |       
    13 | repo-update-non-oss       | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Non-Oss       | Ja        | (r ) Ja         | Ja             |   99      | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/non-oss/                     |       
    linux-3645:/home/martin #
    linux-3645:/home/martin # ^C
    linux-3645:/home/martin # zypper lr -d
    Die Repository-Prioritäten sind ohne Effekt. Alle aktivierten Repositorys teilen sich die gleiche Priorität.


    # | Alias | Name | Aktiviert | GPG-Überprüfung | Aktualisierung | Priorität | Typ | URI | Dienst
    ---+---------------------------+-----------------------------------------+-----------+-----------------+----------------+-----------+--------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------
    1 | ecsos | ecsos | Ja | (r ) Ja | Ja | 99 | rpm-md | https://download.opensuse.org/reposi...USE_Leap_42.3/ |
    2 | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0 | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0 | Ja | (r ) Ja | Nein | 99 | yast2 | cd:///?devices=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-hp_DVDRAM_GU90N_KMNZ8C81556 |
    3 | packman | packman | Ja | (r ) Ja | Ja | 99 | rpm-md | ftp://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/ |
    4 | repo-debug | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug | Nein | ---- | ---- | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/d...42.3/repo/oss/ |
    5 | repo-debug-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug-Non-Oss | Nein | ---- | ---- | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/d.../repo/non-oss/ |
    6 | repo-debug-update | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug | Nein | ---- | ---- | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/u...leap/42.3/oss/ |
    7 | repo-debug-update-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug-Non-Oss | Nein | ---- | ---- | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/u.../42.3/non-oss/ |
    8 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Non-Oss | Ja | (r ) Ja | Ja | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distrib.../repo/non-oss/ |
    9 | repo-oss |


    openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Oss | Ja | (r ) Ja | Ja | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distrib...42.3/repo/oss/ |

    10 | repo-source | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source | Nein | ---- | ---- | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/source/...42.3/repo/oss/ |
    11 | repo-source-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source-Non-Oss | Nein | ---- | ---- | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/source/.../repo/non-oss/ |
    12 | repo-update | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update | Ja | (r ) Ja | Ja | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/oss/ |

    13 | repo-update-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Non-Oss | Ja | (r ) Ja | Ja | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/non-oss/ |

    linux-3645:/home/martin #






    linux-3645:/home/martin # ^C
    linux-3645:/home/martin # zypper lr -d
    Die Repository-Prioritäten sind ohne Effekt. Alle aktivierten Repositorys teilen sich die gleiche Priorität.


    # | Alias | Name | Aktiviert | GPG-Überprüfung | Aktualisierung | Priorität | Typ | URI | Dienst
    ---+---------------------------+-----------------------------------------+-----------+-----------------+----------------+-----------+--------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------
    1 | ecsos | ecsos | Ja | (r ) Ja | Ja | 99 | rpm-md | https://download.opensuse.org/reposi...USE_Leap_42.3/ |
    2 | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0 | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0 | Ja | (r ) Ja | Nein | 99 | yast2 | cd:///?devices=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-hp_DVDRAM_GU90N_KMNZ8C81556 |
    3 | packman | packman | Ja | (r ) Ja | Ja | 99 | rpm-md | ftp://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/ |
    4 | repo-debug | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug | Nein | ---- | ---- | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/d...42.3/repo/oss/ |
    5 | repo-debug-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug-Non-Oss | Nein | ---- | ---- | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/d.../repo/non-oss/ |
    6 | repo-debug-update | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug | Nein | ---- | ---- | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/u...leap/42.3/oss/ |
    7 | repo-debug-update-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug-Non-Oss | Nein | ---- | ---- | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/u.../42.3/non-oss/ |
    8 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Non-Oss | Ja | (r ) Ja | Ja | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distrib.../repo/non-oss/ |
    9 | repo-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Oss | Ja | (r ) Ja | Ja | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distrib...42.3/repo/oss/ |
    10 | repo-source | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source | Nein | ---- | ---- | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/source/...42.3/repo/oss/ |
    11 | repo-source-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source-Non-Oss | Nein | ---- | ---- | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/source/.../repo/non-oss/ |
    12 | repo-update | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update | Ja | (r ) Ja | Ja | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/oss/ |
    13 | repo-update-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Non-Oss | Ja | (r ) Ja | Ja | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/non-oss/ |
    linux-3645:/home/martin #
    dilbert ;-)
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    Default Re: dragon-player does not play mp4 files - what can i do?

    There may be a licensing issue here; please check the following openSUSE positions:

    You could also check the gory details in Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4_Part_14>.

    There is a Spanish company named "Fluendo", who provide the GStreamer package to openSUSE. They also have, a commercial cross-platform multi-media player named "ONEPLAY" which could, legally, solve your problem -- check it out with the trial version: <https://fluendo.com/en/products/mult...neplay-player/>.

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    Default Re: dragon-player does not play mp4 files - what can i do?

    Quote Originally Posted by dilbertone View Post
    well i think


    finally got stuck
    And how/where did you get stuck?

    It's not really rocket science, and basically the same since years...

    Run "zypper dup --from packman" to switch all installed multimedia packages to the Packman version.

    For gstreamer (which dragonplayer uses by default, unless you install phonon4qt5-backend-vlc), additionally install gstreamer-plugins-bad-orig-addons, gstreamer-plugins-ugly-orig-addons and gstreamer-plugins-libav to get practically all available codecs.

    If that doesn't help, try to delete the gstreamer plugin cache, i.e. the directory ~/.cache/gstreeamer-1.0/ .

    For VLC, you additionally need to install vlc-codecs.

    Or follow this: http://opensuse-guide.org/codecs.php
    Last edited by wolfi323; 22-Jan-2018 at 04:48.

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    Default Re: dragon-player does not play mp4 files - what can i do?

    Quote Originally Posted by dcurtisfra View Post
    There may be a licensing issue here; please check the following openSUSE positions:
    No.
    Packman provides everything necessary to play mp4 files.

    mp4 support is just not available in the standard distribution because of possible licensing/patent issues.

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    Cool Re: dragon-player does not play mp4 files - what can i do?

    My opinions on licensing issues and FOSS and/or FLOSS issues are:

    • "You pays your money and you takes your choice!!!" -- Meaning, normally, you have to buy the hardware needed to run your favourite software (unless of course the hardware was a gift or, you stole it!!! ). Therefore, there is absolutely no reason too assume that the software is available by simply taking it, for nothing: the software has a value which needs to be supported either by means of your contributions, or your donations, or the costs of possible license fees.


    • Yes, Open Source is one of the best things which has happened since sliced bread (was invented) but, Open Source is "free" only in licensing terms. The development costed effort, the servers running the distributions need electricity and Internet access and administration and floor space and, there's the capital expense of the server hardware: that's all cost which needs to be financed, somehow.


    • Like it or not, there are human beings on this planet, who demand licensing fees for ** their ** intellectual property and, in democratic societies they're legally entitled to those fees.


    My bottom line:
    As a person who strongly believes in and supports democracy (except the extreme right form of it), who has an aversion to all forms of anarchy, who prefers community and communal society, I believe that intellectual property rights should be respected, even if "Open Source principals" have to be violated as a result.

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    Default Re: dragon-player does not play mp4 files - what can i do?

    So you want to imply that open source codecs are illegal and/or unethical?
    Why are you using Linux at all then, probably without paying for it?

    Well, feel free to pay for codecs if you prefer, but there is no *technical* reason to do so.
    And AFAIK most licenses (or patents actually) in this area do allow free *private* use.

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    Default Re: dragon-player does not play mp4 files - what can i do?

    well no that would mean for example that the use of vlc on windows is legal but on linux illegal?
    the videolan team even had a legal victory regarding libdvdcss which they develop and was decelerated legal by a french court (vlc is based in France) but is still illegal in the US (and maybe parts of the EU) for a silly reason that it removes drm and drm removal is illegal not the code it self which is open sourced or the compiled library
    http://www.videolan.org/legal.html
    but things are changing for example with smartphones video/audio codecs are licensed by the soc hardware manufacturer/designer not the OS vendor or software developer that's why all of them have h264 and most h265 support and because Microsoft started bundling h264 and xvid support since Vista, and I remember reading an article regarding bpg a h265 i frames based image codec where the author claimed the format is legal to use on hardware that has native h265 support but might not be legal on legacy machines which is silly but it is what it is, this software patent mess is the reason we're stuck with jpeg 20+ years after it was released seeing how jpeg2000 bpg and other modern image formats use software routines that are patented unlike vanilla jpeg which uses dct hell even arithmetically coded jpeg didn't catch on because of software patents

    a quote from videolan's legal page
    Patents and codec licenses
    Neither French law nor European conventions recognize software as patentable (see French section below).
    Therefore, software patents licenses do not apply on VideoLAN software.
    I do remember a few years back running Mandrake (a French based Linux distro) and it did have buildin multimedia support actually it even shipped with nvidia drivers on the CDs (this was years ago before broadband was common) but Mandrake went bankrupt

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_A View Post
    well no that would mean for example that the use of vlc on windows is legal but on linux illegal?
    No, actually it would mean IMHO that the use of vlc on windows would be illegal (or unethical) as well, as you don't pay for it.

    PS: in the case of nvidia drivers, it is indeed a license issue.
    NVidia's license is incompatible with the kernel license, and therefore it's not allowed to ship them together.

    But, I think we are going very off-topic here now though.

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