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    Default Re: Paranoid browser test - is there privacy in FOSS?

    Quote Originally Posted by suse_rasputin View Post
    ...any ideas how to share .cap files, if interesing?
    No ideas. What are .cap files?

    BTW check the Firefox bug thread. The developers have replied.

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    .cap = package captures on your network, to see where FF or the other browsers get in touch with (by just starting an empty tab, did that in the past, outcome is not really what makes you sleep good at night. Therefore my working machines have no browsers at all, the FF is on a different computer, in a different network, connected only via VNC).

    The reply of the FF people does not really increase my trust (besides the Burda deal, pocket, etc. pp.). They are totally on the wrong track, re privacy. But on the other hand: Who cares (besides you and me)? Is there a "market" for privacy products? Look at all the Android and Apple zombies running arround with 24/7 surveillance as a business model.

    Even my TW installs try to ping an opensuse/Microthingy domain via NetworkManager whole day, a Microsoft-like counter for active installs or the like.

    We'll have to face it: Privacy is simply not there on the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suse_rasputin View Post
    .cap = package captures on your network, to see where FF or the other browsers get in touch with (by just starting an empty tab, did that in the past, outcome is not really what makes you sleep good at night. Therefore my working machines have no browsers at all, the FF is on a different computer, in a different network, connected only via VNC).
    Doesn't Tor work for you?
    As for .cap - it would be interesting to see your findings. Perhaps you can upload the file somewhere and paste a link? And of course - some help about how to read it?

    The reply of the FF people does not really increase my trust (besides the Burda deal, pocket, etc. pp.). They are totally on the wrong track, re privacy. But on the other hand: Who cares (besides you and me)? Is there a "market" for privacy products? Look at all the Android and Apple zombies running arround with 24/7 surveillance as a business model.
    Their reply sounds honest as they suggest ways to verify but I haven't touched C code for 20 years, so I can't really dig into that. Perhaps monitoring network packets is easier.
    Who cares? - Well, I care. That's a good enough reason, not because I am egocentric but because I am just like everyone else and nobody likes people with a telescope looking through his window, even if it is for statistical purposes.

    Even my TW installs try to ping an opensuse/Microthingy domain via NetworkManager whole day, a Microsoft-like counter for active installs or the like.
    Wow... Is it the same with other distros?

    We'll have to face it: Privacy is simply not there on the internet.
    I refuse to put up with that.

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    Default Re: Paranoid browser test - is there privacy in FOSS?

    Quote Originally Posted by suse_rasputin View Post
    Even my TW installs try to ping an opensuse/Microthingy domain via NetworkManager whole day, a Microsoft-like counter for active installs or the like.
    Hi
    Be careful, that's FUD. The connectivity check (esp captive portal use) can be disabled via the config, it's been discussed on the forum a few times on what to do and it doesn't involve tin foil.

    Firefox has moved to rust as well.... or has it gone to rust.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    Hi
    Firefox has moved to rust as well.... or has it gone to rust.....
    What do you mean?

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    What do you mean?
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    Quantum is now built on rust.....
    https://www.rust-lang.org/en-US/

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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    Hi
    Quantum is now built on rust.....
    https://www.rust-lang.org/en-US/

    Runs like Lightning McQueen since it involves rust-eze
    Oh that Well, considering the latest reply I received in the Mozilla bug thread, I will seriously be looking for another browser which truly respects privacy and freedom. FF is obviously not that.

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    As for Waterfox....



    and just like Firefox upon startup it connects to the same mozilla hosts (seen in tcpdump)

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    Default Re: Paranoid browser test - is there privacy in FOSS?

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    Oh that Well, considering the latest reply I received in the Mozilla bug thread, I will seriously be looking for another browser which truly respects privacy and freedom. FF is obviously not that.
    Perhaps this thread might be now more suited to "Soapbox"...

    It's something one wants to laugh at... but it's not particularly funny.

    No need to worry though, from the horses mouth: ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1424781#c4 ) "You can trust us to do the right thing. We're Mozilla."

    As an aside, somebody needs to "do the right thing" on the AMO site...
    did you see this? https://www.ghacks.net/2017/12/13/mo...m-infestation/
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