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    Default Re: Tower's BtrFS has gone ReadOnly... again... yet again.

    Thanks Karl. Your info as usual is interesting & helpful. OK, i shall add Trim back onto my To Do list... Ha.

    So even though i'm now using ext4 like you for root, if i understand correctly i'm different on /home, as yours is not encrypted...? Therefore, your earlier advice to me that your high-reliability TW experience with ext4 is still not an analogue to my system now, given i still have the partial encryption, ie, i suppose theoretically another failure vector. Time will tell...

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    Oh well. Decided to try it first, not later, but...
    Code:
    gooeygirl@linux-35ka:/run/media/gooeygirl/COMSOL-B> sudo sh ./timeshift-v17.11-amd64.run
    
    
    We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local System
    Administrator. It usually boils down to these three things:
    
    
        #1) Respect the privacy of others.
        #2) Think before you type.
        #3) With great power comes great responsibility.
    
    
    [sudo] password for root: 
    Verifying archive integrity... All good.
    Uncompressing Timeshift (amd64)  100%  
    ==============================================================================
    Installing files...
    ==============================================================================
    /usr
    /usr/bin
    /usr/share
    /usr/share/polkit-1
    /usr/share/polkit-1/actions
    /usr/share/locale
    /usr/share/locale/fr
    /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/hi
    /usr/share/locale/hi/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/vi
    /usr/share/locale/vi/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/uk
    /usr/share/locale/uk/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/ro
    /usr/share/locale/ro/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/ko
    /usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/cs
    /usr/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/pt_BR
    /usr/share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/ia
    /usr/share/locale/ia/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/ar
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    /usr/share/locale/el
    /usr/share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/hu
    /usr/share/locale/hu/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/sv
    /usr/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/en_GB
    /usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/lt
    /usr/share/locale/lt/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/et
    /usr/share/locale/et/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/id
    /usr/share/locale/id/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/am
    /usr/share/locale/am/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/az
    /usr/share/locale/az/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/pt
    /usr/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/zh_CN
    /usr/share/locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/ru
    /usr/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/es
    /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/is
    /usr/share/locale/is/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/ca
    /usr/share/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/it
    /usr/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/ne
    /usr/share/locale/ne/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/nb
    /usr/share/locale/nb/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/hr
    /usr/share/locale/hr/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/pl
    /usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/eu
    /usr/share/locale/eu/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/sr
    /usr/share/locale/sr/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/nl
    /usr/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/sk
    /usr/share/locale/sk/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/bg
    /usr/share/locale/bg/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/he
    /usr/share/locale/he/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/locale/de
    /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES
    /usr/share/applications
    /usr/share/doc
    /usr/share/doc/timeshift
    /usr/share/man
    /usr/share/man/man1
    /usr/share/timeshift
    /usr/share/timeshift/libs
    /usr/share/timeshift/images
    /usr/share/appdata
    /usr/share/icons
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/96x96
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/96x96/apps
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps
    /etc
    /etc/default
    /usr/bin/timeshift-launcher
    /usr/bin/timeshift-gtk
    /usr/bin/timeshift-uninstall
    /usr/bin/timeshift
    /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/in.teejeetech.pkexec.timeshift.policy
    /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/hi/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/vi/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/uk/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/ro/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/ia/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/ar/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/da/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/hu/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/lt/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/et/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/id/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/am/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/az/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/is/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/ne/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/nb/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/hr/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/eu/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/sr/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/sk/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/bg/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/he/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/timeshift.mo
    /usr/share/applications/timeshift-gtk.desktop
    /usr/share/doc/timeshift/changelog.gz
    /usr/share/doc/timeshift/copyright
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/include.png
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/folder-symbolic.svg
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/unlocked.png
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/donate.svg
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/clock.png
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/list-add.png
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/media-optical.png
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/document-save-symbolic.svg
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/item-gray.png
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/timeshift-shield-high.svg
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/list-remove.png
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/item-blue.png
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/timeshift-shield-med.svg
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/item-green.png
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/item-red.png
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/disk.png
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/locked.png
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/emblem-default-symbolic.svg
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/open-menu-symbolic.svg
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/preferences-system-symbolic.svg
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/edit-delete.png
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/document-open-recent-symbolic.svg
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/exclude.png
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/drive-harddisk.svg
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/item-yellow.png
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/gtk-file.png
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/edit-delete-symbolic.svg
    /usr/share/timeshift/images/timeshift-shield-low.svg
    /usr/share/appdata/timeshift.appdata.xml
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/timeshift.png
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/timeshift.png
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/96x96/apps/timeshift.png
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/timeshift.png
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/timeshift.png
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/timeshift.png
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps/timeshift.png
    /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/timeshift.png
    /etc/default/timeshift.json
    ==============================================================================
    Installing dependency packages...
    ==============================================================================
    Dist Type: Debian / Ubuntu
    Package Manager: apt-get
    E: Failed to execute child process “dpkg” (No such file or directory)
    
    
    (process:5836): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_strsplit: assertion 'string != NULL' failed
    E: Failed to execute child process “apt-cache” (No such file or directory)
    
    
    (process:5836): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_strsplit: assertion 'string != NULL' failed
    Installed: 0
    Available: 0
    Nothing to install
    E: Failed to execute child process “dpkg” (No such file or directory)
    
    
    (process:5836): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_strsplit: assertion 'string != NULL' failed
    E: Failed to execute child process “apt-cache” (No such file or directory)
    
    
    (process:5836): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_strsplit: assertion 'string != NULL' failed
    Installed: 0
    Available: 0
    ==============================================================================
    Installation completed
    ==============================================================================
    Following packages could not be installed. Please install these manually:
     > libgee-0.8-2
     > libvte-2.91-0
     > libjson-glib-1.0-0
     > rsync
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Start the application using shortcut in Applications Menu
    Or execute the command: timeshift-launcher
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    gooeygirl@linux-35ka:/run/media/gooeygirl/COMSOL-B> sudo zypper in rsync libjson-glib-1.0-0 libvte-2.91-0 libgee-0.8-2
    Loading repository data...
    Reading installed packages...
    'rsync' is already installed.
    No update candidate for 'rsync-3.1.2-6.1.x86_64'. The highest available version is already installed.
    'libgee-0.8-2' not found in package names. Trying capabilities.
    No provider of 'libgee-0.8-2' found.
    'libjson-glib-1.0-0' not found in package names. Trying capabilities.
    No provider of 'libjson-glib-1.0-0' found.
    'libvte-2.91-0' not found in package names. Trying capabilities.
    No provider of 'libvte-2.91-0' found.
    Resolving package dependencies...
    
    
    Nothing to do.
    gooeygirl@linux-35ka:/run/media/gooeygirl/COMSOL-B>
    Later on [another day] i shall try to build it from scratch with the source code at GitHub; that will be an interesting challenge for me.

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    Default Re: Tower's BtrFS has gone ReadOnly... again... yet again.

    Karl
    The 840 showed some degradation in performance and recovered after firmware update.
    This touches on something i have wondered about for over a year [ie, long before i began using TW]. In neither my Lappy or Tower have i ever upgraded any FW... partly because i don't understand how to do that in Linux [all guides i'd read on the process seem to rely on using Windows], & partly coz of fear of bricking one or both machine/s.

    From your comment it's obvious that you know how to do it successfully. Would you mind pls giving me some ideas how to do it, or links to some good articles on it?

    I wonder about this in the context of my problems... can bad FW cause random misbehaviour like several of my threads have described?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GooeyGirl View Post
    Karl
    This touches on something i have wondered about for over a year [ie, long before i began using TW]. In neither my Lappy or Tower have i ever upgraded any FW... partly because i don't understand how to do that in Linux [all guides i'd read on the process seem to rely on using Windows], & partly coz of fear of bricking one or both machine/s.

    From your comment it's obvious that you know how to do it successfully. Would you mind pls giving me some ideas how to do it, or links to some good articles on it?
    1. Backup your data
    2. Verify the backup
    3. Download iso, burn to rewritable cd and boot from that: http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor...oad/tools.html presumably ISO EXT0DB6Q
    4. Boot Tumbleweed and check performance: hdparm -tT /dev/sda or whatever your device is

    I wonder about this in the context of my problems... can bad FW cause random misbehaviour like several of my threads have described?
    To my experience anything can happen. I am learning since 1976: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O0swCd6O20
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    Default Re: Tower's BtrFS has gone ReadOnly... again... yet again.

    Quote Originally Posted by GooeyGirl View Post
    Oh well. Decided to try it first, not later, but...

    <snip>

    Later on [another day] i shall try to build it from scratch with the source code at GitHub; that will be an interesting challenge for me.
    Hi
    Here you go... an openSUSE one

    https://build.opensuse.org/package/s...TING/timeshift

    Code:
    zypper in https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/malcolmlewis:/TESTING/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/x86_64/timeshift-17.11+git20171129-1.1.x86_64.rpm
    Please test, if works as expected, then will push to the Archiving development repo...
    Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890)
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    Yes, even snapper is not a replacement for backups to separate media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karlmistelberger View Post
    1. Backup your data
    2. Verify the backup
    3. Download iso, burn to rewritable cd and boot from that: http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor...oad/tools.html presumably ISO EXT0DB6Q
    4. Boot Tumbleweed and check performance: hdparm -tT /dev/sda or whatever your device is

    To my experience anything can happen. I am learning since 1976: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O0swCd6O20
    Haha, the washing machine. I was a cadet engineer back then, & i thought that tech was so awesome that i must have been in a sci-fi movie. Now it's just hilarious.

    Unfortunately i cannot access that Samsung link, with multiple browsers. That's odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    Hi
    Here you go... an openSUSE one

    https://build.opensuse.org/package/s...TING/timeshift

    Code:
    zypper in https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/malcolmlewis:/TESTING/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/x86_64/timeshift-17.11+git20171129-1.1.x86_64.rpm
    Please test, if works as expected, then will push to the Archiving development repo...
    OMZ, you made this just for me? That's sensational; thanks for your kindness. Later today i shall test it & let you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xorbe View Post
    Yes, even snapper is not a replacement for backups to separate media.
    I don't think i understand the point you're making. Never have i confused system snapshots & rollbacks, with the entirely different issue of my data backups.

    For the record, the reason i valued Snapper so highly, & why i'm now excited at the possibility of Timeshift availability [care of Malcolm's generosity], is that once TW is [re]installed, it then always takes me several hours to have it fully operational wrt having ALL my many pgms [re]installed [including resolving the ugly & stressful dependency conundrums]. Yesterday it was not til night that i finished that task, & i still have multiple loose ends to tidy up. All that time & effort would be avoided with Snapper / [potentially] Timeshift. Maybe nobody else feels this way, but IMO running a rolling-release distro without a tool for system recovery makes me feel naked & vulnerable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GooeyGirl View Post
    Haha, the washing machine. I was a cadet engineer back then, & i thought that tech was so awesome that i must have been in a sci-fi movie. Now it's just hilarious.

    Unfortunately i cannot access that Samsung link, with multiple browsers. That's odd.
    Try that:


    Code:
    karl@erlangen:~> curl -Iv http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/download/tools.html
    *   Trying 23.35.102.192...
    * TCP_NODELAY set
    * Connected to www.samsung.com (23.35.102.192) port 80 (#0)
    > HEAD /semiconductor/minisite/ssd/download/tools.html HTTP/1.1
    > Host: www.samsung.com
    > User-Agent: curl/7.57.0
    > Accept: */*
    > 
    < HTTP/1.1 200 OK
    HTTP/1.1 200 OK
    < Content-Type: text/html
    Content-Type: text/html
    < Content-Length: 64099
    Content-Length: 64099
    < Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2017 05:18:49 GMT
    Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2017 05:18:49 GMT
    < Connection: keep-alive
    Connection: keep-alive
    < Set-Cookie: country_codes=de; path=/; domain=.samsung.com
    Set-Cookie: country_codes=de; path=/; domain=.samsung.com
    < Set-Cookie: device_type=pc; path=/; domain=.samsung.com
    Set-Cookie: device_type=pc; path=/; domain=.samsung.com
    
    < 
    * Connection #0 to host www.samsung.com left intact
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