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    Question Installing Firefox 57 - add repository or download from mozilla.org?

    I found Firefox 57.0.1 here (which I suppose means I should install from "mozilla" repository, i.e. not through official repos).
    I also read some threads in which people suggest to download from mozilla.org, unzip to a directory and use it this way.

    Which is the recommended way and why? I also wonder - why isn't latest stable Firefox in official openSUSE repos? It is a stable software, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by heyjoe View Post
    I found Firefox 57.0.1 here (which I suppose means I should install from "mozilla" repository, i.e. not through official repos).
    I also read some threads in which people suggest to download from mozilla.org, unzip to a directory and use it this way.

    Which is the recommended way and why? I also wonder - why isn't latest stable Firefox in official openSUSE repos? It is a stable software, right?
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    The current Leap release is following the Firefox ESR route, it's stable, it's in the official oss repositories for Tumbleweed. The can't co-exist so it's one or the other...

    My preference if I was going to run would be via a tarball download and it's own directory just for my user...
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    Thanks for the quick reply.

    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    Hi
    The current Leap release is following the Firefox ESR route, it's stable, it's in the official oss repositories for Tumbleweed. The can't co-exist so it's one or the other...
    I am not quite sure I understand (I also had to search what is ESR and found this). My confusion comes from the fact that I see a repo providing 57.0.1 for Leap 42.3 which is listed in the "Show unstable packages" on software.opensuse.org but at the same time it is a stable software which you also confirm. And what is it that can't co-exist with it? I hope you can clarify.

    Another thing I notice when I click "1-click install" (screenshot) - why am I asked to add 2 repos? Why is the second one needed? Is it safe? (I still haven't confirmed anything)

    My preference if I was going to run would be via a tarball download and it's own directory just for my user...
    Why is that? Because the repo can't be trusted or something else? Is it not better to have updates via 'zypper up'?

    Sorry for so many questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heyjoe View Post
    Thanks for the quick reply.


    I am not quite sure I understand (I also had to search what is ESR and found this). My confusion comes from the fact that I see a repo providing 57.0.1 for Leap 42.3 which is listed in the "Show unstable packages" on software.opensuse.org but at the same time it is a stable software which you also confirm. And what is it that can't co-exist with it? I hope you can clarify.

    Another thing I notice when I click "1-click install" (screenshot) - why am I asked to add 2 repos? Why is the second one needed? Is it safe? (I still haven't confirmed anything)


    Why is that? Because the repo can't be trusted or something else? Is it not better to have updates via 'zypper up'?

    Sorry for so many questions.
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    If you press the alt key to get the menu Help -> About, then you will see it's the ESR version, latest is only features, remember any security, important bug fixes are backported into the released versions (via updates repo).

    Yes it's the development repository, always use at your own risk, it may break your system, maybe not now....

    You need to make sure you backup your ~/.mozilla folder before installing, AFAIK, they are not compatible(?) some add-ons don't work with Quantum yet.

    Quantum is built with rust (which is not in Leap), hence it needs to be added to your system for supporting libraries.

    The tarball is standalone so includes supporting files all in one location, rather than system wide....

    Scenario, say there is a major update to rust (since it's a development repo) and this appears in the repository and you update, then it may break Firefox if it's not rebuilt against the new libraries that are installed. Or a new release of quantum comes out and is not built or fails for some reason against those libraries... all just a possibility when using non-standard repositories....
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    Thank you so much for explaining.

    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    If you press the alt key to get the menu Help -> About, then you will see it's the ESR version, latest is only features, remember any security, important bug fixes are backported into the released versions (via
    Does that mean that my currently installed Firefox version (52.5.0-66.1.x86_64) already has everything which 57.0.1 has? In other words - is there any reason to update to newer version number at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by heyjoe View Post
    Thank you so much for explaining.


    Does that mean that my currently installed Firefox version (52.5.0-66.1.x86_64) already has everything which 57.0.1 has? In other words - is there any reason to update to newer version number at all?
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    From a security point of view, features not necessarily. Version numbers mean generally new features, or in this case a different build environment.

    The question is really what can't you do in the current release, do I need a new feature (what ever that may be)?

    The openSUSE Leap model isn't new features...
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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    Hi
    The question is really what can't you do in the current release, do I need a new feature (what ever that may be)?
    I just read that it is very fast and many other good things, so I got curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heyjoe View Post
    I found Firefox 57.0.1 here
    There's a semi-official repo:
    Code:
    http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/
    which seems to contain 57.0.1.

    Perhaps that's where your software search is finding it.

    I currently have that repo configured but disabled. I'm inclined to stay with the ESR version, at least for a while longer.
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    Default Re: Installing Firefox 57 - add repository or download from mozilla.org?

    Quote Originally Posted by heyjoe View Post
    Does that mean that my currently installed Firefox version (52.5.0-66.1.x86_64) already has everything which 57.0.1 has? In other words - is there any reason to update to newer version number at all?
    Firefox 57 is really fast. You need not install it. Run it from the tarball.
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    Thanks everyone.
    I will try the tarball.

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