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    Default Re: Leap 42.3 Optimus laptop - nvidia-prime - bumblebee

    Quote Originally Posted by OrsoBruno View Post
    Yes, that is correct. Please note that Nouveau is not "uninstalled" but "blacklisted" to give a chance to the proprietary driver:
    Noted

    Quote Originally Posted by OrsoBruno View Post
    Also please note that bumblebee with Nouveau didn't work on an Asus of mine on Leap 42.2 so I had to install the proprietary driver, but your mileage might vary.
    So I install nvidia driver the hard way, then I follow the SDB "SDB:NVIDIA Bumblebee" from the begin to the end as if nouveau was running.
    Of course it is not necessary to blacklist nouveau as it is already done when installing nvidia the hard way.

    So it is not necessary to install bumblebee when nouveau is running and not blacklisted ?
    Is it correct ?
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    Default Re: Leap 42.3 Optimus laptop - nvidia-prime - bumblebee

    Quote Originally Posted by jcdole View Post
    So it is not necessary to install bumblebee when nouveau is running and not blacklisted ?
    Well, there is DRI PRIME which does more or less the same.
    https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PRIME
    https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project...bee/issues/773

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    Default Re: Leap 42.3 Optimus laptop - nvidia-prime - bumblebee

    If I understand well, bumblebee is necessary to use the nvidia card

    jdd

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    Quote Originally Posted by arvidjaar View Post
    I was speaking about the sequence order as describe in "https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_Bumblebee"
    when you encounter problem as OrsoBruno said
    Also please note that bumblebee with Nouveau didn't work on an Asus of mine on Leap 42.2 so I had to install the proprietary driver, but your mileage might vary.
    So my question is :
    Due to some problem (like with asus GXXX model), If you cannot follow the sequence order as describe in "https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_Bumblebee", you rollback to start point, install nvidia driver the hard way, and restart from beginning but with nvidia driver installed ???
    Thanks for helping. JCD
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    Default Re: Leap 42.3 Optimus laptop - nvidia-prime - bumblebee

    Quote Originally Posted by jcdole View Post
    I was speaking about the sequence order as describe in "https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_Bumblebee"
    when you encounter problem as OrsoBruno said

    So my question is :
    Due to some problem (like with asus GXXX model), If you cannot follow the sequence order as describe in "https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_Bumblebee", you rollback to start point, install nvidia driver the hard way, and restart from beginning but with nvidia driver installed ???
    No, installing the Nvidia driver "the hard way" on Optimus laptops is going to bring you A LOT of trouble: do not do that unless you are very sure about what you are doing.
    Let's not mix things up: you have two different routes.

    As installed (no bumblebee, no Nvidia) the system might be able to use DRI PRIME, as arvidjaar suggested.
    AFAIK the kernel and Xserver in Leap 42.3 are too old to allow that, so you may try Tumbleweed (easier option) or install manually a newer kernel (at least 4.8.x) and a newer xorg-x11-server (at least 1.19.x) on Leap.
    Please see this thread https://forums.opensuse.org/showthre...21#post2810421 for a few tests we did on ASUS gear a while ago.

    The other route is Bumblebee, the easiest way to deal with Optimus laptops AFAIK.
    Follow the guide to the letter, any deviation is likely to bring you trouble.
    Maybe it works with Nouveau; if not, install the Nvidia driver as described in the guide.
    Anyway, the Nvidia driver must be installed after Bumblebee (you have even to uninstall the Nvidia driver if there is any before installing Bumblebee) and Nouveau must be blacklisted for Bumblebee to work (whether this is done automagically by the bumblebee or Nvidia install or should be done manually I'm not sure at this point; but adding that manually does no harm anyway).
    Hope this helps.
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    Default Re: Leap 42.3 Optimus laptop - nvidia-prime - bumblebee

    Quote Originally Posted by jdd View Post
    If I understand well, bumblebee is necessary to use the nvidia card
    No.
    Code:
    $ xrandr --listproviders 
    Providers: number : 2
    Provider 0: id: 0x68 cap: 0x9, Source Output, Sink Offload crtcs: 4 outputs: 5 associated providers: 1 name:Intel
    Provider 1: id: 0x3f cap: 0x4, Source Offload crtcs: 0 outputs: 0 associated providers: 1 name:modesetting
    And I could also spare separate driver for Intel iGPU if I did not have artefacts when DRI3 is enabled and to my best knowledge there is no easy way to disable DRI3 with modesetting driver.

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    Default Re: Leap 42.3 Optimus laptop - nvidia-prime - bumblebee

    Quote Originally Posted by OrsoBruno View Post
    The other route is Bumblebee, the easiest way to deal with Optimus laptops AFAIK.
    With all respect - if DRI PRIME works, this is the most easy way because you do not need to do anything at all - it just works

    Of course someone may actually want or need nVidia binary driver (performance, power management, extra features, limited hardware support by nouveau ...) in which case it is either bumblebee or nvidia-prime.

    Personally I never had any need to use dGPU on my Optimus notebook so I finally settled for nouveau simply to avoid extra out of tree driver (bbswitch) - dGPU is powered down automatically in this case when not used.

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    Default Re: Leap 42.3 Optimus laptop - nvidia-prime - bumblebee

    Quote Originally Posted by arvidjaar View Post
    With all respect - if DRI PRIME works, this is the most easy way because you do not need to do anything at all - it just works
    Agree, but that was a big IF with Leap 42.2 at least. Maybe the drm backports from 4.9.x to 4.4.x in Leap 42.3 changed things though (not tried yet myself).
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    Default Re: Leap 42.3 Optimus laptop - nvidia-prime - bumblebee

    Quote Originally Posted by OrsoBruno View Post
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    The other route is Bumblebee, the easiest way to deal with Optimus laptops AFAIK........
    Follow the guide to the letter, any deviation is likely to bring you trouble.
    Maybe it works with Nouveau; if not, install the Nvidia driver as described in the guide.
    Anyway, the Nvidia driver must be installed after Bumblebee (you have even to uninstall the Nvidia driver if there is any before installing Bumblebee) and Nouveau must be blacklisted for Bumblebee to work (whether this is done automagically by the bumblebee or Nvidia install or should be done manually I'm not sure at this point; but adding that manually does no harm anyway).
    Hope this helps.
    I am starting to day this way; hope for the best.
    Thanks for helping. JCD
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    Default Re: Leap 42.3 Optimus laptop - nvidia-prime - bumblebee

    No install problem.

    Can somebody tell how to test if the nvidia driver is running when necessary.

    glxspheres seems to run faster without optimus command ???

    Code:
    user_install@linux-u6go:~> /usr/bin/glxspheres
    Polygons in scene: 62464 (61 spheres * 1024 polys/spheres)
    Visual ID of window: 0xb5
    Context is Direct
    OpenGL Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Haswell Mobile
    60.876116 frames/sec - 67.937745 Mpixels/sec
    60.004030 frames/sec - 66.964497 Mpixels/sec
    60.036099 frames/sec - 67.000287 Mpixels/sec
    60.043458 frames/sec - 67.008499 Mpixels/sec
    60.037584 frames/sec - 67.001944 Mpixels/sec
    60.038990 frames/sec - 67.003513 Mpixels/sec
    60.036831 frames/sec - 67.001103 Mpixels/sec
    60.037264 frames/sec - 67.001587 Mpixels/sec
    60.033997 frames/sec - 66.997941 Mpixels/sec
    60.039743 frames/sec - 67.004353 Mpixels/sec
    60.040247 frames/sec - 67.004916 Mpixels/sec
    60.030092 frames/sec - 66.993582 Mpixels/sec
    60.042918 frames/sec - 67.007897 Mpixels/sec
    Code:
    user_install@linux-u6go:~> optirun /usr/bin/glxspheres
    Polygons in scene: 62464 (61 spheres * 1024 polys/spheres)
    Visual ID of window: 0x21
    Context is Direct
    OpenGL Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.8, 256 bits)
    34.361401 frames/sec - 38.347324 Mpixels/sec
    34.289004 frames/sec - 38.266528 Mpixels/sec
    34.185107 frames/sec - 38.150579 Mpixels/sec
    34.302704 frames/sec - 38.281818 Mpixels/sec
    34.137625 frames/sec - 38.097590 Mpixels/sec
    32.868122 frames/sec - 36.680824 Mpixels/sec
    32.554553 frames/sec - 36.330882 Mpixels/sec
    32.386001 frames/sec - 36.142777 Mpixels/sec
    31.195373 frames/sec - 34.814036 Mpixels/sec
    28.477028 frames/sec - 31.780363 Mpixels/sec
    27.789076 frames/sec - 31.012609 Mpixels/sec
    Code:
    user_install@linux-u6go:~> sudo optirun --status
    [sudo] password for root:
    Bumblebee status: Ready (3.2.1). X inactive. Discrete video card is off.
    Code:
    user_install@linux-u6go:~> /sbin/lspci -nnk | grep '\[03' -A2
    00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Crystal Well Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0d26] (rev 08)
            Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:157d]
            Kernel driver in use: i915
    --
    01:00.0 3D controller [0302]: NVIDIA Corporation GK104M [GeForce GTX 880M] [10de:1198] (rev ff)
            Kernel modules: nouveau, nvidia_drm, nvidia
    03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0034] (rev 01)
    If you need anythings else, please ask.
    Thanks for helping. JCD
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