Zypper dup indicates problems with Cinnamon

[Tuner]

... or 'unmet dependencies,' if that would be a better phrase.

The problem:

I booted to console, ran zypper dup, and was unpleasantly surprised to see:

Problem: nothing provides cinnamon-settings-daemon >= 3.6.0 needed by cinnamon-settings-daemon-lang-3.6.1-1.1.noarch
Problem: nemo-3.4.7-1.3.x86_64 requires cinnamon-translations, but this requirement cannot be provided
Problem: nemo-3.4.7-1.3.x86_64 requires cinnamon-translations, but this requirement cannot be provided
Problem: nemo-3.4.7-1.3.x86_64 requires cinnamon-translations, but this requirement cannot be provided

For the first problem, zypper dup offered three solutions:

Solution 1:  deinstallation of cinnamon-settings-daemon-lang-3.4.4-1.3.noarch
Solution 2:  keep obsolete cinnamon-settings-daemon-lang-3.4.4-1.3.noarch
Solution 3:  break cinnamon-settings-daemon-lang-3.6.1-1.1.noarch by ignoring some of its dependencies

... and that was as far as I got.

In similar situations in the past, I have accepted zypper dup's first suggested option, crossed fingers and hoped for the best. This time, I hesitate. I don't think that many others here use the Cinnamon desktop, and worry that an essential component has been omitted.

Suggestions, anyone?

[tsu2]

Probably a good starting point is to describe how you installed Cinnamon.

IIRC,
When I tinkered with Cinnamon on a 42.3, there were packages in the online (not DVD) OSS but no Pattern which is one way that only <mostly> worked. I seem to remember generally but without detail that some things were working, others not completely.

It might also be possible to install Cinnamon from source.

TSU

[Tuner]

I wrote up the installation steps in a mini-FAQ (and thanked you and Miuku for the help provided this summer!):

https://forums.opensuse.org/showthre...op-and-lightDM

The installation has been pretty stable for the last several months (and I'd like to keep it stable, which is why I thought I should post my question before proceeding with the dup.)

[arvidjaar]

Just wait. Cinnamon packages are being updated to new version; development repository already has cinnamon-settings-daemon 3.6.1, it just did not yet make its way into Factroy/Tumbleweed.

[xorbe]

Yeah, zypper asked endless questions about what to do with Cinnamon today. Usually I check back in a week, and it's mostly sorted out. (I use Cinnamon for the VNC session, as it seems like I can't get KDE on the desktop and KDE in the VNC session, for the same user.)

I didn't do anything special for installation, I just selected the Cinnamon packages with the gui tool. Install from source? C'mon I'm not running arch or gentoo or whatever.

[Tuner]

Ah ha! Thank you, arvidjaar (and to you as well, xorbe). I may be far less knowledgeable than other Tumbleweed users, but even I know how to wait awhile!

[xorbe]

The solver is broken, and not usable:

Problem: nemo-3.4.7-1.3.x86_64 requires cinnamon-translations, but this requirement cannot be provided
Solution 1: Following actions will be done:
deinstallation of nemo-3.4.7-1.2.x86_64
deinstallation of cinnamon-metatheme-numix-2.6-1.4.noarch
Solution 2: keep obsolete cinnamon-translations-3.4.3-1.2.noarch
Solution 3: break nemo-3.4.7-1.3.x86_64 by ignoring some of its dependencies
Choose from above solutions by number or skip, retry or cancel [1/2/3/s/r/c] (c): 1

Okay. Next question.

Problem: nemo-3.4.7-1.2.x86_64 requires cinnamon-translations, but this requirement cannot be provided
Solution 1: ...

Look, I already opted to deinstall that nemo package. Why is it still considering its dependencies? I think the problem is that cinnamon-translations is missing from the repo?

[xorbe]

I did a successful dup by just keeping "obsolete" packages for now, until cinnamon-translations is resolved.

[Tuner]

The new cinnamon-settings-daemon must be in; I just zypper dup'd without a problem message.