Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 18

Thread: Added semi-official KDE repos; now do i dup or up?

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    582

    Default Added semi-official KDE repos; now do i dup or up?

    Hello


    My real OS is TW, but recently i've also been playing around with Leap 42.3 in some VMs. This enquiry concerns Leap.

    I have created a Leap 42.3 KDE VM, configured it to my tastes, then cloned it. The purpose of the clone is for me to experiment with the semi-official KDE repos, knowing that if i "destroy" Leap i still have my good original VM on which i can fall back. It's kind of like a Master Leap VM, whilst the clone is so i can go "wild & crazy" without any important permanent ramifications.

    From https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:KDE_repo...lications_only i read:
    Updated KDE Applications only

    If you're using the official, supported and tested core KDE packages provided with the distribution, there are these additional repositories available for your consideration. Tumbleweed users do not need (but can, if they want) to use it, as new releases are submitted to Tumbleweed as soon as they're available, and are usually pushed to standard repositories in a matter of days. This repository also serves as a development project for openSUSE:Factory.
    In YaST i then added:
    In https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:KDE_repo...5_.26_Plasma_5 i read:
    KDE Frameworks 5 & Plasma 5

    Releases of KDE Frameworks 5 and Plasma 5. Since openSUSE 13.2, KDE Frameworks 5 (KF5) libraries, and Plasma 5 components are part of the standard distribution repositories. If you want test and/or use the latest release, you can use this repo.
    Note for openSUSE Leap 42.x users: Leap 42.x ships with Qt 5.6.x, which is not recent enough for Plasma 5.10+, so to use KDE:Frameworks5, KDE:Qt5 is required. Use of that is not recommended as applications in the main or 3rd party repos might break due to API/ABI changes.
    On the basis of this clear warning, i will not be surprised if this VM therefore, sooner or later becomes unusable... but this quarantined experiment is all part of my learning process. In YaST i added:
    So, all that said, what is the next step i should take with Leap in this VM pls... do i do a zypper dup [like i do in TW], or continue with Leap's normal zypper up? I am assuming it would be dup, but i want to give this VM the best possible chance of success, without me making some stupid error right from the start.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Podunk
    Posts
    32,325
    Blog Entries
    15

    Default Re: Added semi-official KDE repos; now do i dup or up?

    Hi
    You need to switch system packages first, so it would be;
    Code:
    zypper dup --from <some extra repo>
    Once switched, then you fall back to the standard zypper up, I always suggest adding some verbosity (-vvv) so you can see what is going to happen.
    Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890)
    SUSE SLE, openSUSE Leap/Tumbleweed (x86_64) | GNOME DE
    If you find this post helpful and are logged into the web interface,
    please show your appreciation and click on the star below... Thanks!

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    582

    Default Re: Added semi-official KDE repos; now do i dup or up?

    Thanks. So, something like:
    Code:
    sudo zypper dup --from KDE_Frameworks_5 --from Updated_KDE_Applications --from Updated_Qt_5 -vvv
    
    
    ...given:
    Code:
    linux-wy8t:~> zypper lr -d
    Repository priorities are without effect. All enabled repositories share the same priority.
    
    #  | Alias                           | Name                                    | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                     
                           | Service
    ---+---------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+----------+--------+---------------------------------------------------------
    -----------------------+--------                                                                                                                                                              
     1 | KDE_Frameworks_5                | Updated KDE Frameworks 5                | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Framework
    s5/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/ |                                                                                                                                                                      
     2 | Updated_KDE_Applications        | Updated KDE Applications                | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/ope
    nSUSE_Leap_42.3/       |                                                                                                                                                                      
     3 | Updated_Qt_5                    | Updated Qt 5                            | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openS
    USE_Leap_42.3/         |                                                                                                                                                                      
     4 | download.opensuse.org-non-oss   | Main Repository (NON-OSS)               | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.3/repo
    /non-oss/              |                                                                                                                                                                      
     5 | download.opensuse.org-non-oss_1 | Update Repository (Non-Oss)             | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/non-oss/  
                           |                                                                                                                                                                      
     6 | download.opensuse.org-oss       | Main Repository (OSS)                   | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.3/repo
    /oss/                  |         
     7 | download.opensuse.org-oss_1     | Main Update Repository                  | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/oss       
                           |         
     8 | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0            | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0                    | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.3/repo
    /oss/                  |         
     9 | packman.inode.at-suse           | Packman Repository                      | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/        
                           |         
    10 | repo-debug                      | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug                | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/42.
    3/repo/oss/            |         
    11 | repo-debug-non-oss              | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug-Non-Oss        | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/42.
    3/repo/non-oss/        |         
    12 | repo-debug-update               | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug         | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/42.3/oss/
                           |         
    13 | repo-debug-update-non-oss       | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug-Non-Oss | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/42.3/non-
    oss/                   |         
    14 | repo-source                     | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source               | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/42
    .3/repo/oss/           |         
    15 | repo-source-non-oss             | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source-Non-Oss       | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/42
    .3/repo/non-oss/       
    
    ...?

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Podunk
    Posts
    32,325
    Blog Entries
    15

    Default Re: Added semi-official KDE repos; now do i dup or up?

    Quote Originally Posted by GooeyGirl View Post
    Thanks. So, something like:
    Code:
    sudo zypper dup --from KDE_Frameworks_5 --from Updated_KDE_Applications --from Updated_Qt_5 -vvv
    
    
    ...given:
    Code:
    linux-wy8t:~> zypper lr -d
    Repository priorities are without effect. All enabled repositories share the same priority.
    
    #  | Alias                           | Name                                    | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                     
                           | Service
    ---+---------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+----------+--------+---------------------------------------------------------
    -----------------------+--------                                                                                                                                                              
     1 | KDE_Frameworks_5                | Updated KDE Frameworks 5                | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Framework
    s5/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/ |                                                                                                                                                                      
     2 | Updated_KDE_Applications        | Updated KDE Applications                | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/ope
    nSUSE_Leap_42.3/       |                                                                                                                                                                      
     3 | Updated_Qt_5                    | Updated Qt 5                            | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openS
    USE_Leap_42.3/         |                                                                                                                                                                      
     4 | download.opensuse.org-non-oss   | Main Repository (NON-OSS)               | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.3/repo
    /non-oss/              |                                                                                                                                                                      
     5 | download.opensuse.org-non-oss_1 | Update Repository (Non-Oss)             | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/non-oss/  
                           |                                                                                                                                                                      
     6 | download.opensuse.org-oss       | Main Repository (OSS)                   | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | No      |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.3/repo
    /oss/                  |         
     7 | download.opensuse.org-oss_1     | Main Update Repository                  | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/oss       
                           |         
     8 | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0            | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0                    | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.3/repo
    /oss/                  |         
     9 | packman.inode.at-suse           | Packman Repository                      | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/        
                           |         
    10 | repo-debug                      | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug                | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/42.
    3/repo/oss/            |         
    11 | repo-debug-non-oss              | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug-Non-Oss        | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/42.
    3/repo/non-oss/        |         
    12 | repo-debug-update               | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug         | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/42.3/oss/
                           |         
    13 | repo-debug-update-non-oss       | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug-Non-Oss | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/42.3/non-
    oss/                   |         
    14 | repo-source                     | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source               | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/42
    .3/repo/oss/           |         
    15 | repo-source-non-oss             | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source-Non-Oss       | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/42
    .3/repo/non-oss/       
    
    ...?
    Hi
    That should work, I think if you search the forum there will be some breadcrumbs on how to do it with KDE/Plasma. The -vvv is first though as in zypper -vvv <command string>.
    Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890)
    SUSE SLE, openSUSE Leap/Tumbleweed (x86_64) | GNOME DE
    If you find this post helpful and are logged into the web interface,
    please show your appreciation and click on the star below... Thanks!

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    582

    Default Re: Added semi-official KDE repos; now do i dup or up?

    Thanks. I know for sure i have read, somewhere in the forum, previous discussions similar to this, & i promise you i did perform a search prior to creating my thread. Clearly i did not use sufficiently good keywords, because i did not find what i needed.

    In the experimental VM, the process is now underway, for better or worse, having done:
    Code:
    sudo zypper -vvv dup --from KDE_Frameworks_5 --from Updated_KDE_Applications --from Updated_Qt_5
    When i come back to the pc in the morning [bedtime now], it'll be interesting to see what happened in that VM.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    582

    Default Re: Added semi-official KDE repos; now do i dup or up?

    Actually it finished sooner than i'd expected. So far it all looks excellent; same Plasma, Apps & Qt now as my TW, & everything i've tested so far seems to be correctly behaving. The only quirk i’ve spotted so far is that in KInfoCentre for Plasma version, instead of correctly saying “5.10.5”, it says “5.10.95”. Ha.

  7. #7

    Default Re: Added semi-official KDE repos; now do i dup or up?

    On 10/02/2017 05:06 AM, GooeyGirl wrote:
    >
    > Hello
    >
    >
    > My real OS is TW, but recently i've also been playing around with Leap
    > 42.3 in some VMs. This enquiry concerns Leap.
    >
    > I have created a Leap 42.3 KDE VM, configured it to my tastes, then
    > cloned it. The purpose of the clone is for me to experiment with the
    > semi-official KDE repos, knowing that if i "destroy" Leap i still have
    > my good original VM on which i can fall back. It's kind of like a Master
    > Leap VM, whilst the clone is so i can go "wild & crazy" without any
    > important permanent ramifications.
    >


    If you are using VirtualBox you also have the ability to use "snapshots"
    as a way of having a point to "roll back" to. It's what I use in place
    of btrfs.


    --
    Ken
    linux since 1994
    S.u.S.E./openSUSE since 1996

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Brazil
    Posts
    3,234

    Default Re: Added semi-official KDE repos; now do i dup or up?

    Quote Originally Posted by GooeyGirl View Post
    i did perform a search prior to creating my thread. Clearly i did not use sufficiently good keywords, because i did not find what i needed.
    You may try Google (or DuckDuckGo) with the sitepensuse.org prefix, which sometimes yields more relevant results than the forum search engine.

    *that's site : opensuse.org, without the spaces (and the smiley )

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Chicago suburbs
    Posts
    15,671
    Blog Entries
    3

    Default Re: Added semi-official KDE repos; now do i dup or up?

    One way to handle this project would be:

    1. Download the latest krypton iso from HERE
    2. Boot krypton (it is live media.
    3. Check the repos for krypton, and set your system to use the same repos and the same priorities.
    4. zypper dup --allow-vendor-change


    The repo priorities should take care of what finishes up installed.
    openSUSE Leap 15.3; KDE Plasma 5.18.6;

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    582

    Default Re: Added semi-official KDE repos; now do i dup or up?

    Quote Originally Posted by kensch View Post
    On 10/02/2017 05:06 AM, GooeyGirl wrote:
    >
    > Hello
    >
    >
    > My real OS is TW, but recently i've also been playing around with Leap
    > 42.3 in some VMs. This enquiry concerns Leap.
    >
    > I have created a Leap 42.3 KDE VM, configured it to my tastes, then
    > cloned it. The purpose of the clone is for me to experiment with the
    > semi-official KDE repos, knowing that if i "destroy" Leap i still have
    > my good original VM on which i can fall back. It's kind of like a Master
    > Leap VM, whilst the clone is so i can go "wild & crazy" without any
    > important permanent ramifications.
    >


    If you are using VirtualBox you also have the ability to use "snapshots"
    as a way of having a point to "roll back" to. It's what I use in place
    of btrfs.


    --
    Ken
    linux since 1994
    S.u.S.E./openSUSE since 1996
    Oh what a great idea - i somehow always seem to forget about the snapshot capability of VB. I really must play about with it & begin using it. Thanks.

    PS - I can see how that would work for you [enabling you to not use btrfs in root] for all oS distros installed in VB VMs... but it can't help for TW or Leap running direct on metal, for which the ongoing installation decision seems to remain ||| btrfs [for snapper & rollbacks] or ext4 etc [so no rollbacks].

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •