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    Lightbulb Please make "Plastik" or "MS Windows 9x" the default theme in KDE Plasmashell!!

    A "flat" design removes the distinction between navigation controls and content.
    Historically, navigation controls such as buttons were shaded, or given 3D relief,
    to distinguish them from the application or web page's content.

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    Default Re: Please make "Plastik" or "MS Windows 9x" the default theme in KDE Plasmashell!!

    No, they're both ugly as hell.

    Better suggestion; use keyboard shortcuts - https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/appli...ntals/kbd.html
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    Default Re: Please make "Plastik" or "MS Windows 9x" the default theme in KDE Plasmashell!!

    Please no. Ugly or not doesn't matter, both are completely outdated. And I definitely don't want my desktop to look like Win98.
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    Default Re: Please make "Plastik" or "MS Windows 9x" the default theme in KDE Plasmashell!!

    @Teuniz

    I'm not sure if that should be taken as a tongue in cheek comment ( http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dict...ongue-in-cheek ) or not.

    "Plastik", although I don't use it myself, is still available...

    http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/c8f6bb5c

    ... so if that's your preference, just select it.
    Regards, Paul

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    Default Re: Please make "Plastik" or "MS Windows 9x" the default theme in KDE Plasmashell!!

    Quote Originally Posted by tannington View Post
    @Teuniz

    I'm not sure if that should be taken as a tongue in cheek comment ( http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dict...ongue-in-cheek ) or not.

    "Plastik", although I don't use it myself, is still available...

    http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/c8f6bb5c

    ... so if that's your preference, just select it.
    It's one of the thirst things I do after installing a new version of Opensuse.

    My point was that we should make it the default in order to improve the usability of KDE.

    A "flat" theme should be an option afterwards for the people who are crazy enough to like it...

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    Default Re: Please make "Plastik" or "MS Windows 9x" the default theme in KDE Plasmashell!!

    I have to agree with the OP about flat themes/decorations - they are harder to use than the "previous" generation.

    One thing* I'll sorely miss is KDE4 Crystal window decoration. It is highly (and I mean totally) configurable, with many button types and live coloring, captions, shades, background, logos, overlays for active and inactive windows, custom button positions, re-sizable window borders that actually work, title bar height, no issues with compositing on/off, etc. Worked brilliantly here for years.

    I've tried a couple other decorations in oS 42.3 that look a little bit like Crystal (more of a pale simulacrum) but they are riddled with bugs. In fact, in my limited experience only Breeze is stable in KDE5, all others - including Plastik - have issues.

    (* the other, of course, is different widgets per desktop).

    Sigh...

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    Default Re: Please make "Plastik" or "MS Windows 9x" the default theme in KDE Plasmashell!!

    Re. the flat B&W default theme in oS 42.3 KDE, I find that switching icon theme to Oxygen improves things a bit. Part is familiarity - it looks a bit like the KDE Diamonds iconset for KDE4 - but mostly due to having colored icons. I don't have a monochrome monitor since the early 90's, and IMHO there's not much sense in dismissing the recognizable dimension that color provides.

    Now I know this is all a question of taste, there are no absolutes, only opinions, so fingers crossed not to start a flame war here.

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    Default Re: Please make "Plastik" or "MS Windows 9x" the default theme in KDE Plasmashell!!

    But going back to W95/98 decorations is a bit too much. It is, after all, ugly and outdated as hell (IMO, of course).

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    Default Re: Please make "Plastik" or "MS Windows 9x" the default theme in KDE Plasmashell!!

    Quote Originally Posted by brunomcl View Post
    One thing* I'll sorely miss is KDE4 Crystal window decoration. It is highly (and I mean totally) configurable, with many button types and live coloring, captions, shades, background, logos, overlays for active and inactive windows, custom button positions, re-sizable window borders that actually work, title bar height, no issues with compositing on/off, etc. Worked brilliantly here for years.
    So, take it over, update it, develop and maintain it.
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    Default Re: Please make "Plastik" or "MS Windows 9x" the default theme in KDE Plasmashell!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Knurpht View Post
    Please no. Ugly or not doesn't matter, both are completely outdated. And I definitely don't want my desktop to look like Win98.
    ... and do I ever agree with this. W98??? Why not WFWG 3.11?
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