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    Default 42.3, woes and tribulations

    Well; I got there in the end! But not without some unnecessary horror! I think that the devs should employ some idiots like myself to ensure that things that are obvious to them are also obvious to us dimwits...
    1) Launching the installer. Now please, it would not surely be hard for "it" to recognise whether an install has an EFI/UEFI install to upgrade? My BIOS happily allowed the .iso to boot, and I happily allowed it to do an "upgrade install" After install it borked because "no EFI partition"
    2) Fresh install offered "Delete Windows" and a gang of BTRFS stuff. This is not what new users want. I wanted to do a fresh install, keeping my partitions, and not changing /home /swap .. I TRIED.... honest..
    3) Eventually changed BIOS to not allow UEFI. Booted to the installer and told it to "upgrade" .. This it happily did. It took approx 1 cup of tea (2 mins). Which is great.

    Then of course... problems started.. These were quite natural for someone attempting an unofficial route.. But I should not have been placed in this position to begin with!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wakou View Post
    2) <...> I wanted to do a fresh install, keeping my partitions, and not changing /home /swap .. I TRIED.... honest..
    In partitioning dialog you can press button "Edit Proposal Settings" and then press button to import mount points from existing Linux installation.

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    I always click on partitioning for experts> in the partition> re-read the partitions> and the existing partitions> swap> / home> / etc are displayed ..
    So let's get the file system from the mount point and> ok

    I agree that the new way of partitioning Default can cause a headache
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    Quote Originally Posted by wakou View Post
    Well; I got there in the end! But not without some unnecessary horror! I think that the devs should employ some idiots like myself to ensure that things that are obvious to them are also obvious to us dimwits...
    1) Launching the installer. Now please, it would not surely be hard for "it" to recognise whether an install has an EFI/UEFI install to upgrade? My BIOS happily allowed the .iso to boot, and I happily allowed it to do an "upgrade install" After install it borked because "no EFI partition"
    2) Fresh install offered "Delete Windows" and a gang of BTRFS stuff. This is not what new users want. I wanted to do a fresh install, keeping my partitions, and not changing /home /swap .. I TRIED.... honest..
    3) Eventually changed BIOS to not allow UEFI. Booted to the installer and told it to "upgrade" .. This it happily did. It took approx 1 cup of tea (2 mins). Which is great.

    Then of course... problems started.. These were quite natural for someone attempting an unofficial route.. But I should not have been placed in this position to begin with!

    I was an absolute devotee of Opensuse and Gnome for several years (see... http://forums.opensuse.org/general-c...ml#post1950934) until the new Gnome interface, following the same dead end as Windows 8, became part of the distribution. At this time, I decided to return to Windows, the better of two evils. This week, I decided to give Opensuse another chance by installing Tumbleweed with Gome front end.

    Well the user interface is better than it was when it first shot itself in the foot but it still leaves a lot to be desired, e.g. I have to go into settings to get the minimise/maximise windows buttons back and then when I minimise a window, it just disappears and I have to use ctrl+alt to see what's running and switch between applications.

    I can live with things like that, just, but there are a couple of things I can't live with...

    1) The Desktop, so called because that's what we sit in front of and do our work on. So why is it a fixed blank background that you can save files to behind the scenes but can't see them? Ridiculous!

    2) Earlier versions of Opensuse were able to auto-mount and read from USB flash drives. Why is the web full of people desperate to know how to mount and access their flash drive data now? Why leave out such basic functionality?

    I've only been using my newly installed Opensuse system for a couple of days and have already found these two issues which, for me, are a stopper. I've hit a good few bugs but can live with these (as an ex software developer) because I know someone out there is struggling to fix them. But issues like this which are intentionally by design, why on earth would anyone implement anything so unfriendly and unuseful?

    My final point is that it took me about 15 minutes to find which forum I should post my grumble to and how to do it. I obviously got there eventually by way of this topic , but why should it be so tortuous?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbenet View Post
    Well the user interface is better than it was when it first shot itself in the foot but it still leaves a lot to be desired, e.g. I have to go into settings to get the minimise/maximise windows buttons back and then when I minimise a window, it just disappears and I have to use ctrl+alt to see what's running and switch between applications.
    Hi
    Alt+Tab to switch between windows...

    Quote Originally Posted by jbenet View Post
    1) The Desktop, so called because that's what we sit in front of and do our work on. So why is it a fixed blank background that you can save files to behind the scenes but can't see them? Ridiculous!
    A design decision (? a pain, but tend to live with it...), just like the systray. Check out GNOME Shell extensions for things like TopIcons Plus GNOME Shell Extensions


    Quote Originally Posted by jbenet View Post
    2) Earlier versions of Opensuse were able to auto-mount and read from USB flash drives. Why is the web full of people desperate to know how to mount and access their flash drive data now? Why leave out such basic functionality?
    That would be the increase in storage size of removable media and the introduction of the exFAT format, just install the tools....
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