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    Default OSS repo vs Leap KDE Extra vs Tumbleweed KDE Extra repos

    While I'm using ktorrent as an example package I'm seeking to better understand the design of these repos better.

    I'm confused why the Leap 42.3 KDE Extra repo contain the newest build of ktorrent - newer than both the Tumbleweed OSS and Tumbleweed KDE Extra repo.

    Tumbleweed OSS: ktorrent-5.0.1-3.2. 13-Jun3-2017
    Tumbleweed Extra: ktorrent-5.0.1-36.3 15-June-2017
    Leap 42.3 Extra: ktorrent-5.0.1-36.16. 5-July-2017

    The tumbleweed OSS repo has the oldest build, and the tumbleweed KDE extra repo has a build version in between Leap and Tumbleweed?

    It seems non-intuitive the place to find the latest build of ktorrent is in a repo for tumbleweed not mentioned on the wiki page for the KDE extras repo, and that the tumbleweed OSS repo contains the oldest of all versions.

    http://download.opensuse.org/tumblew...3.2.x86_64.rpm
    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit....16.x86_64.rpm
    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...6.3.x86_64.rpm

    Further, why is there a KDE extra repo for tumbleweed given:
    https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:KDE_repo...KDE_3_Packages

    "Tumbleweed users do not need (but can, if they want) to use it, as new releases are submitted to Tumbleweed as soon as they're available, and are usually pushed to standard repositories in a matter of days."

    Interestingly the above page contains links for the KDE extra's repo for LEAP, but not for Tumbleweed, though such exists.

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    Default Re: OSS repo vs Leap KDE Extra vs Tumbleweed KDE Extra repos

    AFAICS all the packages are -5.0.1, so the same version. The rest of the version, AFAICT this time, is no more than buildversions from OBS
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    Default Re: OSS repo vs Leap KDE Extra vs Tumbleweed KDE Extra repos

    Ah - thanks. The changelogs below show they are in fact the same.

    What purpose does the tumbleweed KDE extras repo serve then?

    Cheers



    Code:
    calculus:~ # rpm -qi --changelog ktorrent
    Name        : ktorrent
    Version     : 5.0.1
    Release     : 3.2
    Architecture: x86_64
    Install Date: Sat Jul  1 22:21:56 2017
    Group       : Productivity/Networking/File-Sharing
    Size        : 3496477
    License     : GPL-2.0+
    Signature   : RSA/SHA256, Tue Jun 13 13:21:46 2017, Key ID b88b2fd43dbdc284
    Source RPM  : ktorrent-5.0.1-3.2.src.rpm
    Build Date  : Tue May 23 08:00:00 2017
    Build Host  : lamb61
    Relocations : (not relocatable)
    Packager    : https://bugs.opensuse.org
    Vendor      : openSUSE
    URL         : http://ktorrent.org/
    Summary     : KDE BitTorrent Client
    Description :
    KTorrent is a bittorrent application for KDE which allows you to download files
    using the BitTorrent protocol. It enables you to run multiple torrents at the
    same time and comes with extended features to make it a full-featured client
    for BitTorrent.
    Distribution: openSUSE Tumbleweed
    * Tue May 23 2017 wbauer@tmo.at
    - Add fix-crash-when-loading-bandwidth-scheduler-plugin.patch and
      fix-crashes-in-bwscheduler-plugin.patch from upstream to fix
      ktorrent crashing when the bandwidth scheduler plugin is
      activated/used (kde#361863, boo#1040379)
    
    
    * Wed Feb 01 2017 adam.majer@suse.de
    - use individual libboost-*-devel packages instead of boost-devel

    vs
    Code:
    calculus:~ # wget http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/x86_64/ktorrent-5.0.1-36.4.x86_64.rpm
    calculus:~ # rpm -qp --changelog ktorrent-5.0.1-36.4.x86_64.rpm  
    
    warning: ktorrent-5.0.1-36.4.x86_64.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 0d210a40: NOKEY
    * Tue May 23 2017 wbauer@tmo.at
    - Add fix-crash-when-loading-bandwidth-scheduler-plugin.patch and
      fix-crashes-in-bwscheduler-plugin.patch from upstream to fix
      ktorrent crashing when the bandwidth scheduler plugin is
      activated/used (kde#361863, boo#1040379)
    
    
    * Wed Feb 01 2017 adam.majer@suse.de
    - use individual libboost-*-devel packages instead of boost-devel

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    Default Re: OSS repo vs Leap KDE Extra vs Tumbleweed KDE Extra repos

    Good question, since it's been added to TW, I don't see much use of this package living in the KDE:Extra repo.
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    Default Re: OSS repo vs Leap KDE Extra vs Tumbleweed KDE Extra repos

    Quote Originally Posted by Knurpht View Post
    Good question, since it's been added to TW, I don't see much use of this package living in the KDE:Extra repo.
    KDE:Extra is the development project for Tumbleweed.
    If ktorrent wouldn't be in KDE:Extra, it couldn't be in Tumbleweed (or Leap) either...

    And changes have to be made in KDE:Extra first before they can be submitted to Tumbleweed.

    In this case, only the rebuild count is different though, as mentioned.
    The packages are in fact the same (in KDE:Extra, TW, and 42.3), there hasn't been a change since May.

    This rebuild count is absolutely meaningless if you compare different repos (or even the same repo for different distributions)...
    OBS does e.g. rebuild packages automatically if one of the dependencies changes.
    Last edited by wolfi323; 08-Jul-2017 at 04:20.

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    Default Re: OSS repo vs Leap KDE Extra vs Tumbleweed KDE Extra repos

    PS, to address another question:
    Quote Originally Posted by LewsTherinTelemon View Post
    Further, why is there a KDE extra repo for tumbleweed given:
    https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:KDE_repo...KDE_3_Packages
    KDE:Extra also contains stuff that is not part of Tumbleweed or Leap (yet).

    For the standard packages that are in the distribution, there's indeed no point in using KDE:Extra, as the updates are submitted to TW anyway.
    You'd just get updates a few days earlier, *before* they are tested.

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