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    Default Software Updates shows install error

    Today I had some problems with software updates (235 updates from toolbar), which just indicated install error. How can I find out, where is the problem? In repositories I had only openSuseTumbleweed sys + non.
    (I also tried to use Yast software update, but it only takes me to Software Management, There I run the update of all installed packages, which, I hope, it's working).

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    Default Re: Software Updates shows install error

    I do not know what you mean by "from toolbar", but the correct way to update Tumbleweed is (as root)
    Code:
    zypper dup --no-allow-vendor-change
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: Software Updates shows install error

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    I do not know what you mean by "from toolbar", but the correct way to update Tumbleweed is (as root)
    Code:
    zypper dup --no-allow-vendor-change
    Henk,
    I meant the KDE Software Updates in Task Manager . Normally it works fine. I got my updates with Yast. The question is: If I get error messages in Software Updates, how can I find out what's the problem?

    br Simo

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    Default Re: Software Updates shows install error

    Quote Originally Posted by SimoKJ View Post
    Henk,
    I meant the KDE Software Updates in Task Manager . Normally it works fine. I got my updates with Yast. The question is: If I get error messages in Software Updates, how can I find out what's the problem?

    br Simo
    That thing works whith Packagemanager and tries to do the equivaent of
    Code:
    zypper up
    As said, that is NOT the way to keep Tumbleweed up-to-date. IMHO that applet is useless on a Tumbleweed installation.

    My advice (but you may think different of course) is to do the statement I offered above (and I did not invent it, itis copied from many, many other threads here in the forums). And when you get errors with the zypper up, you can come back here so we can start serious to try to solve that.

    After that, when you still want to see what that applet does, check it if the error is still there.
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: Software Updates shows install error

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    That thing works whith Packagemanager and tries to do the equivaent of
    Code:
    zypper up
    As said, that is NOT the way to keep Tumbleweed up-to-date. IMHO that applet is useless on a Tumbleweed installation.

    My advice (but you may think different of course) is to do the statement I offered above (and I did not invent it, itis copied from many, many other threads here in the forums). And when you get errors with the zypper up, you can come back here so we can start serious to try to solve that.

    After that, when you still want to see what that applet does, check it if the error is still there.
    OK. Thanks Henk.

    Simo

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    Default Re: Software Updates shows install error

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    IMHO that applet is useless on a Tumbleweed installation.
    yes... at best its annoying and at worst misleading. IMHO It should be disabled on all TW installs - maybe a factory suggestion?
    [it appears (so far) that it can be disabled from the radio button on 'system tray settings' (right click on tray)]

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    Default Re: Software Updates shows install error

    I too had issues in Tumbleweed with this and I now typically run updates in the command line only. Seems that the applet can be a little fickle so I just don't use it so often. I think it'd be nice if were more reliable but I seem to have better reliability with it in Leap, so long as you don't have too many funny repos.

    Tho I haven't tested this suposition it seems like there are only issues with the applet when there is some kind of huge jump in version. For instance, most of the time you will see with
    Code:
    sudo zypper up
    a list of packages upgraded, deleted and added. If there are packages that are getting deleted or added, the applet will not let you proceed. I could be wrong but that seems to be the case with my limited expeirence.

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    Default Re: Software Updates shows install error

    I can not help much with what the applet can and can't because I do not use it (on Leap that is, on TW it has no use).

    On installation I adapt a few tnings on the offered packages installation and two of those are: do not install the applet and do not install Packagekit.
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: Software Updates shows install error

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    On installation I adapt a few tnings on the offered packages installation and two of those are: do not install the applet and do not install Packagekit.
    Without the applet, how do you get notifications of pending updates in Tumbleweed? I use your suggested update command, but I only know when to execute the update command when I see the applet notification that an update is ready. Thank you for your time!

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    Default Re: Software Updates shows install error

    Truthfully, just run updates once a week and you will probably be fine. You could set up a CRON job but I like to watch the updates happen.

    I run about once a week, maybe twice, myself and do a reboot following the updates (if required) or logout / login. Once a week feels like a good interval to me. Something to do either on a Friday before the weekend or first thing Monday. I prefer a Friday at the end of the workday and do a shut down. I don't tend to do much on the computer Friday nights.

    For what it's worth, I did get notification with the update applet in KDE and wanted to see if the updates would go thru. All 98 of them did without any issue. I do have several additional repositories too, 18 in total. So, I still wouldn't recommend the applet but it does seem to work part-time.

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