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    Default Software updater not updating automatically

    Hi,

    In LEAP 42.1 the software updater would download and install updates automatically, yet on my new install of 42.2 (Using KDE, by the way) it doesn't seem to be happening. It will tell me there are updates available, but I have to manually click on the icon and update it that way.

    Any way to change this? By right clicking on the icon and going to "software updates settings" there only appears to be a way to change the check interval, or to check whether it's on a mobile connection or when on battery power.

    Many thanks.

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    Default Re: Software updater not updating automatically

    Here's a question of curiosity. Why in the world would you want to have software installing all by itself without your knowing? That could have disastrous consequenses.
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    Default Re: Software updater not updating automatically

    Quote Originally Posted by kerijan2003 View Post
    Here's a question of curiosity. Why in the world would you want to have software installing all by itself without your knowing? That could have disastrous consequenses.
    My assumption: it can be done, thus it should be done
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    Default Re: Software updater not updating automatically

    You make a very valid point. But....when most people update (eg even by konsole using zypper) don't they just do a general "update"....or does everyone really check every single piece that's going to be installed?

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    Default Re: Software updater not updating automatically

    The way I do it (and everybody his/her own arguments to do it different):
    • I did not install Packagemanager, nor the update applet (so the GUI users can not be tempted even to click on it).
    • Once a week (at maintenance time), I do YaST > Software > Online update. That willl show the security updates and recommended ones. There are often not more then 5 - 10 of them, thus a quick visual check is possible. I normally let them then go. (this is the equivalent of zypper patch). I may do this more often when the security threads in The News & Announcements section of these forums give me the shivers
    • Then I use YaST > Software > Software Management and the Repository View. I choose Packman and from there (right click in the packages list) All in this list Update if a newer version is available. I consider Packman as having software that is executed by end users only, thus less chance to brake the system with those and I generally accept those updates without further examination. (this is equivalent to zypper up --repo <Packman-repo-id>).
    • I have very few other repos and they are normally disabled. Sometimes I will enable and refresh them to see if the packages I have from there are updated.
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: Software updater not updating automatically

    Quote Originally Posted by thestig View Post
    You make a very valid point. But....when most people update (eg even by konsole using zypper) don't they just do a general "update"....or does everyone really check every single piece that's going to be installed?
    I do.

    Because the forum does not let me post such a short answer, I will repeat it:

    I do.
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    Default Re: Software updater not updating automatically

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    The way I do it (and everybody his/her own arguments to do it different):
    • I did not install Packagemanager, nor the update applet (so the GUI users can not be tempted even to click on it).
    • Once a week (at maintenance time), I do YaST > Software > Online update. That willl show the security updates and recommended ones. There are often not more then 5 - 10 of them, thus a quick visual check is possible. I normally let them then go. (this is the equivalent of zypper patch). I may do this more often when the security threads in The News & Announcements section of these forums give me the shivers
    • Then I use YaST > Software > Software Management and the Repository View. I choose Packman and from there (right click in the packages list) All in this list Update if a newer version is available. I consider Packman as having software that is executed by end users only, thus less chance to brake the system with those and I generally accept those updates without further examination. (this is equivalent to zypper up --repo <Packman-repo-id>).
    • I have very few other repos and they are normally disabled. Sometimes I will enable and refresh them to see if the packages I have from there are updated.
    Very similar to the way I do things.
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    Default Re: Software updater not updating automatically

    Quote Originally Posted by Fraser_Bell View Post
    Very similar to the way I do things.

    I do the same thing.
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    Default Re: Software updater not updating automatically

    maybe a package needs confirmation (like flash from adobe) or a unsatisfied dependency issue
    try running
    Code:
    zypper up
    and see what's happening behind the curtains
    afaik the plasma 5 update widget works the same as apper did under kde4 (for me anyways)
    it tells me there are updates and I have to click for them to be downloaded and installed
    I don't know if there's a way for them to be updated without any user interaction (the way microsoft does things) as apper also wanted me to click a button when updates wore available

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