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    Default Problems with KDE repositories since changes from last weekend

    For the last months i used these repositories

    http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/pa...USE_Leap_42.2/
    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...USE_Leap_42.2/
    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...USE_Leap_42.2/
    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...USE_Leap_42.2/
    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...USE_Leap_42.2/
    http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.2/oss/
    http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.2/non-oss/
    http://download.opensuse.org/distrib.../repo/non-oss/
    http://download.opensuse.org/distrib...42.2/repo/oss/

    to update my system on a regular basis with "zypper dup". Last weekend the KDE repositories got re-organised so i changed my setup like this

    http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/pa...USE_Leap_42.2/
    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...USE_Leap_42.2/
    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...USE_Leap_42.2/
    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...USE_Leap_42.2/
    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...USE_Leap_42.2/
    http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.2/oss/
    http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.2/non-oss/
    http://download.opensuse.org/distrib.../repo/non-oss/
    http://download.opensuse.org/distrib...42.2/repo/oss/

    "zypper dup" now results in

    4 Problems:
    Problem: libKF5Declarative5-5.26.0-2.1.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.6.1_PRIVATE_API)(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided
    Problem: kwin5-5.8.5-1.1.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.6.1_PRIVATE_API)(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided
    Problem: libQt5Gui5-5.6.1-2.1.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.6.1_PRIVATE_API)(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided
    Problem: libQt5Gui5-5.6.1-2.1.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.6.1_PRIVATE_API)(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided

    Solving the 4 problems by choosing the "keep obsolete" option results in

    The following 114 packages are going to change vendor:
    akonadi-contact obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    akonadi-search obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    akonadi-server obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    ark obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    baloo5-widgets obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    calendarsupport obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    dolphin obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    dolphin-part obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    dolphin-plugins obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    dragonplayer obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    eventviews obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    gpgmepp5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    grantleetheme obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    gwenview5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    incidenceeditor obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kaccounts-integration obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kaccounts-providers obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kate-plugins obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kcalc obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kcalutils obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kcharselect obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kcolorchooser obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kde-print-manager obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kdenetwork4-filesharing obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kdepim-addons obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kdepim-apps-libs obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kdepim-runtime obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kdgantt2 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    khelpcenter5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kio-extras5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kio_audiocd obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kio_kamera obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kldap obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kleopatra5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kmahjongg obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kmailtransport obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kmines obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kompare obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    konsole obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    konsole-part obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kpat obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kruler obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kwalletmanager5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    kwebkitpart-lang openSUSE -> obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE
    kwrite obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5AkonadiAgentBase5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5AkonadiCalendar5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5AkonadiContact5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5AkonadiCore5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5AkonadiMime5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5AkonadiNotes5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5AkonadiPrivate5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5AkonadiSearch obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5AkonadiWidgets5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5AkonadiXml5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5AlarmCalendar5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5CalendarCore5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5CalendarSupport5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5CalendarUtils5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5Contacts5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5EventViews5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5GAPICalendar5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5GAPIContacts5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5GAPICore5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5GAPITasks5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5GrantleeTheme5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5Gravatar5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5Holidays5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5IMAP5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5IdentityManagement5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5IncidenceEditor5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5KDGantt2-5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5KDcraw5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5KExiv2-15_0_0 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5KMahjongglib5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5KontactInterface5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5Ldap5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5Libkleo5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5MailCommon5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5MailImporter5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5Mbox5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5Mime5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5PimCommon5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5PimTextEdit5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5QGpgme5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5Syndication5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libKF5Tnef5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libaccounts-qt5-1 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libastro1 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libbluray1 http://packman.links2linux.de -> openSUSE
    libdolphinvcs5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libkaccounts1 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libkdegames obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libkerfuffle16 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libkf5kdegames6 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libkleo obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libkolab1 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libkomparediff2-5 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libksieve obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    libsignon-qt5-1 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    mailcommon obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    marble obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    marble-data obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    marble-doc obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    marble-kde obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    messagelib obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    mobipocket obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    okular obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    signon-plugin-oauth2 obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    signon-plugins obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    signon-ui obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    signond obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    signond-libs obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE
    spectacle obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE -> openSUSE

    All those packages will be downgraded to their oss-repo-versions. I don't care about akonadi, PIM & Co. but some other packages (e.g. dolphin, kio-xxx, ...) i would like to use in their latest versions (just as i did before the changes from last weekend).

    Is there a way to accomplish this (without going to Tumbleweed)?

    Regards

    susejunky

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    Default Re: Problems with KDE repositories since changes from last weekend

    1 DO NOT use zypper dup that is for distribution upgrades not updates use only zypper up. Zypper dup is used in TW but that is a different animal and most updates are distro upgrades there.

    Please use code tags for code. It is difficult to actual see what you posted

    I suspect that you are mixing repos that have the same packages but different versions and using dup can lead to what you see

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    Default Re: Problems with KDE repositories since changes from last weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by gogalthorp View Post
    1 DO NOT use zypper dup that is for distribution upgrades not updates use only zypper up. Zypper dup is used in TW but that is a different animal and most updates are distro upgrades there.
    Well, you *need* to run "zypper dup" though to switch the packages to the new repos...

    It would be better to use "zypper dup --from xxx" for that though.

    The question now is: do you want to follow the latest versions from KDE:Applications and KDE:Frameworks5?
    Then remove the KDE:Frameworks:LTS repo again, and readd KDE:Frameworks5.

    If you'd rather stick to the LTS versions, remove KDE:Frameworks5, KDE:Qt5, and KDE:Applications.
    You won't get newer applications (dolphin e.g.) then though, obviously.

    Or, in other words, the "restructure" of the KDE repos means that you now can *only* use KDE:Applications together with KDE:Frameworks5, *not* KDE:Frameworks5:LTS.
    See also the announcement (http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-k.../msg00015.html)
    Lastly, KDE:Applications for Leap 42.2 will be adjusted in a way that it will
    *require* KDE:Frameworks5 to be present. The reasoning is that otherwise it
    will be impossible to build some parts of the stack (PIM in particular) with
    the 42.2 base.
    For further help, please post the output of:
    Code:
    zypper lr -d
    (in CODE tags, as gogalthorp wrote)
    Last edited by wolfi323; 14-Feb-2017 at 10:42.

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    Default AW: Re: Problems with KDE repositories since changes from last weekend

    Hello gogalthorp,

    thank you very much for your quick response.

    Quote Originally Posted by gogalthorp View Post
    1 DO NOT use zypper dup that is for distribution upgrades not updates use only zypper up. Zypper dup is used in TW but that is a different animal and most updates are distro upgrades there.
    Well, i worked this way the last few years (13.2, 42.1 and 42.2 up to last week) and my experience is that it works fine as long as you select your repos carefully.

    Quote Originally Posted by gogalthorp View Post
    Please use code tags for code. It is difficult to actual see what you posted
    Sorry. I put the post together on a different machine, just copied it over and forgot to reformat. Please accept my apologies.

    Quote Originally Posted by gogalthorp View Post
    I suspect that you are mixing repos that have the same packages but different versions ...
    Sure, that is the case and i have seen applications being pulled from different repos because there was a newer version.

    What currently happens is that many applications are downgraded and i just want to know what i have to do to get their latest versions back (as i had last week) without switching to Tumbleweed.

    Regards

    susejunky

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    Default AW: Re: Problems with KDE repositories since changes from last weekend

    Hello wolfi323,

    thank you very much for your quick response.

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    ... The question now is: do you want to follow the latest versions from KDE:Applications and KDE:Frameworks5?
    Then remove the KDE:Frameworks:LTS repo again, and readd KDE:Frameworks5.

    If you'd rather stick to the LTS versions, remove KDE:Frameworks5, KDE:Qt5, and KDE:Applications.
    You won't get newer applications (dolphin e.g.) then though, obviously.

    Or, in other words, the "restructure" of the KDE repos means that you now can *only* use KDE:Applications together with KDE:Frameworks5, *not* KDE:Frameworks5:LTS.
    OK. I guess that is the answer to my question.

    In the past some of the Framework changes caused me problems so i wanted to stay with the Framework LTS version but nevertheless have the latest KDE Applications. So that is no longer possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    Yes, i've seen that post but i thought there still might be some hope ...
    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    ... For further help, please post the output of:
    Code:
    zypper lr -d
    (in CODE tags, as gogalthorp wrote)
    Just for the sake of completeness:
    Code:
    > zypper lr -d
    Repository priorities in effect: (See 'zypper lr -P' for details)
          95 (raised priority)  :  1 repositories
          96 (raised priority)  :  1 repository  
          97 (raised priority)  :  4 repository  
          98 (raised priority)  :  2 repositories
          99 (default priority) :  2 repositories
    
    #  | Alias                             | Name                                    | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                                                             | Service
    ---+-----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+----------+--------+-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
     1 | Kernel_stable_openSUSE            | Kernel stable openSUSE                  | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   95     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/                              |        
     2 | Packman_openSUSE_42.2_(TH_Aachen) | Packman openSUSE 42.2 (TH Aachen)       | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   96     | rpm-md | http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/packman/suse/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/                              |        
     3 | openSUSE_42.2_Frameworks5         | openSUSE 42.2 Frameworks5               | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   97     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Frameworks5:/LTS/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/             |        
     4 | openSUSE_42.2_KDE_Applications    | openSUSE 42.2 KDE Applications          | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   97     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Applications/KDE_Frameworks5_openSUSE_Leap_42.2/ |        
     5 | openSUSE_42.2_KDE_Extra           | openSUSE 42.2 KDE Extra                 | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   97     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/                        |        
     6 | openSUSE_42.2_QT5                 | openSUSE 42.2 QT5                       | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   97     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/                          |        
     7 | repo-non-oss                      | openSUSE-Leap-42.2-Non-Oss              | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.2/repo/non-oss/                               |        
     8 | repo-oss                          | openSUSE-Leap-42.2-Oss                  | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.2/repo/oss/                                   |        
     9 | repo-update                       | openSUSE-Leap-42.2-Update               | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   98     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.2/oss/                                              |        
    10 | repo-update-non-oss               | openSUSE-Leap-42.2-Update-Non-Oss       | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   98     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.2/non-oss/                                          |
    Regards

    susejunky

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    Default AW: Re: Problems with KDE repositories since changes from last weekend

    So now i changed my repo setup from
    Code:
    > zypper lr -d
    Repository priorities in effect: (See 'zypper lr -P' for details)
          95 (raised priority)  :  1 repositories
          96 (raised priority)  :  1 repository  
          97 (raised priority)  :  4 repository  
          98 (raised priority)  :  2 repositories
          99 (default priority) :  2 repositories
    
    #  | Alias                             | Name                                    | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                                                             | Service
    ---+-----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+----------+--------+-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
     1 | Kernel_stable_openSUSE            | Kernel stable openSUSE                  | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   95     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/                              |        
     2 | Packman_openSUSE_42.2_(TH_Aachen) | Packman openSUSE 42.2 (TH Aachen)       | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   96     | rpm-md | http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/packman/suse/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/                              |        
     3 | openSUSE_42.2_Frameworks5         | openSUSE 42.2 Frameworks5               | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   97     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Frameworks5:/LTS/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/             |        
     4 | openSUSE_42.2_KDE_Applications    | openSUSE 42.2 KDE Applications          | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   97     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Applications/KDE_Frameworks5_openSUSE_Leap_42.2/ |        
     5 | openSUSE_42.2_KDE_Extra           | openSUSE 42.2 KDE Extra                 | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   97     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/                        |        
     6 | openSUSE_42.2_QT5                 | openSUSE 42.2 QT5                       | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   97     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/                          |        
     7 | repo-non-oss                      | openSUSE-Leap-42.2-Non-Oss              | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.2/repo/non-oss/                               |        
     8 | repo-oss                          | openSUSE-Leap-42.2-Oss                  | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.2/repo/oss/                                   |        
     9 | repo-update                       | openSUSE-Leap-42.2-Update               | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   98     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.2/oss/                                              |        
    10 | repo-update-non-oss               | openSUSE-Leap-42.2-Update-Non-Oss       | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   98     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.2/non-oss/                                          |
    to
    Code:
    > zypper lr -d
    Repository priorities in effect: (See 'zypper lr -P' for details)
          95 (raised priority)  :  1 repositories
          96 (raised priority)  :  1 repository  
          97 (raised priority)  :  4 repository  
          98 (raised priority)  :  2 repositories
          99 (default priority) :  2 repositories
    
    #  | Alias                             | Name                                    | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                                                             | Service
    ---+-----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+----------+--------+-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
     1 | Kernel_stable_openSUSE            | Kernel stable openSUSE                  | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   95     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/                              |        
     2 | Packman_openSUSE_42.2_(TH_Aachen) | Packman openSUSE 42.2 (TH Aachen)       | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   96     | rpm-md | http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/packman/suse/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/                              |        
     3 | openSUSE_42.2_Frameworks5         | openSUSE 42.2 Frameworks5               | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   97     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Frameworks5/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/             |        
     4 | openSUSE_42.2_KDE_Applications    | openSUSE 42.2 KDE Applications          | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   97     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Applications/KDE_Frameworks5_openSUSE_Leap_42.2/ |        
     5 | openSUSE_42.2_KDE_Extra           | openSUSE 42.2 KDE Extra                 | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   97     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/                        |        
     6 | openSUSE_42.2_QT5                 | openSUSE 42.2 QT5                       | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   97     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/                          |        
     7 | repo-non-oss                      | openSUSE-Leap-42.2-Non-Oss              | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.2/repo/non-oss/                               |        
     8 | repo-oss                          | openSUSE-Leap-42.2-Oss                  | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.2/repo/oss/                                   |        
     9 | repo-update                       | openSUSE-Leap-42.2-Update               | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   98     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.2/oss/                                              |        
    10 | repo-update-non-oss               | openSUSE-Leap-42.2-Update-Non-Oss       | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   98     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.2/non-oss/                                          |
    And (nearly) any thing is fine so far ... EXCEPT: kwallet can't open my wallets anymore!

    (Those are the moments when i do understand why Munich decided to return to the MS-fold.)

    Regards

    susejunky

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    Default Re: Problems with KDE repositories since changes from last weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by susejunky View Post
    And (nearly) any thing is fine so far ... EXCEPT: kwallet can't open my wallets anymore!
    You likely used GPG encryption?
    The latest kwallet is built without GPG support for 42.2 currently, because the gpgme in 42.2 is too old.

    This is being worked on, the latest gpgme has been added to KDE:Frameworks5, but currently still fails to build.

    For now, the only way to "solve" this is to downgrade to the standard packages in 42.2 (or KDE:Frameworks5:LTS). You should then be able to export your wallet though, upgrade again, and afterwards import it.

    Or, if you don't have important data in your wallet, just create a new one.

    See also https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=138507

    That is if you can't wait for a few days until gpgme is "fixed" in KDE:Frameworks5.
    I have no idea how long it will take though.

    Another option would be to switch to Tumbleweed, you would then always get the latest versions (not only KDE Applications, but everything)

    (Those are the moments when i do understand why Munich decided to return to the MS-fold.)
    Did they?
    According to my knowledge they do still use Linux/KDE and even collaborate with KDE.

    But whatever, in any case they definitely wouldn't use experimental/semi-official repos to get the latest bleeding edge packages on top of a stable base system...
    Last edited by wolfi323; 15-Feb-2017 at 07:37.

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    PS: I could also build a kwallet 5.31 package with GPG support for you if you want to have it faster.

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    Hello wolfi323,

    thanks a lot for all your help!

    Yes, i use GPG encryption on my wallets.

    The current behavior of kwallet is not that much of a problem to me (just an annoyance). I always keep two openSUSE versions on my machines (current version + current version -1) so i did as you proposed and ex-/imported my wallets.

    At the dawn of openSUSE Leap there were many disturbing rumors so i tried Tumbleweed. Every update i made took me at least two hours of work to get it operational so i stopped using Tumbleweed after two months of usage. And being a frequent reader of this forum as well as of some of the openSUSE mailing lists does not really encourage me to use Tumbleweed.

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    PS: I could also build a kwallet 5.31 package with GPG support for you if you want to have it faster.
    Oh! That is really nice! Thank you very much for your offer but i think i can wait until the offical release of the working version. So no need to cause you extra trouble.

    And here todays bad news: https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meld...s-3626623.html (No openSUSE though but KDE!).

    Regards

    susejunky

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    Quote Originally Posted by susejunky View Post
    At the dawn of openSUSE Leap there were many disturbing rumors so i tried Tumbleweed. Every update i made took me at least two hours of work to get it operational so i stopped using Tumbleweed after two months of usage. And being a frequent reader of this forum as well as of some of the openSUSE mailing lists does not really encourage me to use Tumbleweed.
    Sorry to hear that.
    But Tumbleweed should actually be quite stable.

    Of course the constant changes per se may cause problems, and may not be what one likes either.
    It is automatically tested before being released, but that can only find certain kind of problems (e.g. not hardware specific ones, and somebody needs to create a test case beforehand).

    Oh! That is really nice! Thank you very much for your offer but i think i can wait until the offical release of the working version. So no need to cause you extra trouble.
    Well, it's not really much trouble, as I build it in my own repo already anyway. OBS makes things like this easy to do.

    And the packages are ready (the main reason for the delay was that OBS busy today and it took a while to build and publish them):
    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...SUSE_Leap_42.2

    I would suggest to add that as repo and do a full switch to it, it only contains gpgme and kwallet.

    But if you switched to blowfish encryption already, there's probably not much reason to do so...

    And here todays bad news: https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meld...s-3626623.html (No openSUSE though but KDE!).
    Oh, so they did decide that today...
    Sounds rather like a political decision though, unlikely to be (solely or even mainly) based on technical reasons.

    And unrelated to your situation/problem anyway, you can't really compare that at all.

    For such a project you wouldn't just install a random community distribution and add some random repos on top to replace parts of it with the latest and "greatest".

    You'd create your own distribution to be in control (as they did), be more conservative with what you include, and test it thouroughly as a whole before rolling it out. You'd also have programmers employed to fix bugs or make customizations on your own or work with upstream to fix them and backport fixes and features you need.
    Not unsimilar to how commercial distributions do it.

    There is of course a good reason why commercial distributions tend to ship older versions and normally don't offer official updates to the latest versions.
    Or why you normally only get security and bugfix updates in the official repos in openSUSE (except for Tumbleweed of course, of which the whole point is to always offer the latest).
    Last edited by wolfi323; 15-Feb-2017 at 14:47.

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