Will the Windows 10 mistakes cause Windows users to switch to Linux and openSUSE?

[dcurtisfra]

Re-invoking the thread “Will the Windows 8 mistakes cause Windows users to switch to Linux & openSuse?” – <https://forums.opensuse.org/showthre...31#post2482631>

Will Windows users disappointed with the new restrictive ways Microsoft have chosen switch to Linux permanently?

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Good question – possibly still relevant with the current Redmond offering:

• Windows 10 has a load of “Redmond is calling” and “the Redmond folks may well find this interesting” bits and pieces …
• By default, Windows 10 feeds the user with world-wide news provided by msn – IOW, Microsoft has added a Newspaper business to it's portfolio …
• Windows 10 patches and updates either happen without being noticed or, they interrupt the daily work being done …
• Windows 10 upgrades from one major release to the next, often cause a number of Pro/Contra articles in the computer press and, occasionally, also in the “normal” press …
• Personally, I doubt that, most Redmond users have realised that, Windows 10 has a built-in Bash shell and Linux runtime environment as a feature …
• Yes, Windows 10 is by default, possibly, more secure than previous versions of the Redmond offering …
• Going through Wikipedia's Windows 10 feature list:

– Available in 110 languages.
– Platforms: IA-32, x86-64, ARMv7, ARM64.

[ionmich]

I hope not. Nothing degrades as quickly as the universally popular...in my opinion.

I switched from Windows to Linux with Red Hat during the last century. Since then I have recommended and assisted in converting 12-15 users to Linux. Every single one has reverted to Windows. I stopped recommending. I have been happy with openSUSE since 9.3 although I do test other distros.

openSUSE works!

[hendwolt]

I don't think, many users will convert.
In my experience the vast majority of users of an operating system / office package / ... are too lazy or unwilling, to "learn" an new OS / Office / ...
They want to keep, what they know.

Hendrik

[another_roadrunner]

I am agree with user hendwolt.

Sadly, I hear that a lot of times:
Why I would read the book? I saw the movie (or) I will wait for the movie.
So, why should I learn Linux (and read a lot)? It is easier to hit "Next".

[dcurtisfra]

I also field an awful amount of “Open Source” suspicion and mistrust – “If it ain't commercial, you can't trust it!” …

On the other hand, it's amazing how many Redmond users, use the Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird products for their Web activities and e-Mail …

“KDE Connect” is also available for the Redmond users – and the Cupertino user community …

• I personally find that, the Redmond attempt to integrate Mobile Telephones to their desktop to be extremely distasteful – they replaced my Android GUI with something they felt would be “better” – IMHO, it isn't …
• KDE Connect on KDE Plasma is however, the absolute Mobile Telephone integration hammer – at least for Android telephones …
• If you have an Apple environment (pure – Mac and iPhone) then, that integration is comparable to the integration achieved by the KDE Connect team …

Office applications:

• The number of Redmond users who prefer OpenOffice and LibreOffice to the Redmond equivalent, is quite amazing.

If you ever want to have a really bad Redmond experience, work for a company who believes that “Share Point” contributes positively to the managed interchange of data between employees/teams/groups/departments …

[nrickert]

I also field an awful amount of “Open Source” suspicion and mistrust – “If it ain't commercial, you can't trust it!” …

That's fair.

I would add: If it is commercial, you can't trust it.

Or, in summary, "if it is software, you can't trust it". And I suppose we should add "if it is hardware, you can't trust it."

[Knurpht]

No they won't. Like 8 did not. Like the Raspberry Pi did not. Like WSL 2.0 will not. My 3 cents.

[deano_ferrari]

Windows has its dominant place in the commercial ecosystem - I really can't see that changing no matter what the criticisms/risks/issues etc. There are too many enterprise software packages in common use that require it ie a lot of 'software inertia' to keep propagating it's requirement. However, in my job as a network engineer for a company providing mobile radio and associated desktop dispatch services, I (and my sys admin colleague) do make use of open source (via Linux environments) for monitoring, provisioning, and config backup purposes.

[malcolmlewis]

Hi
Alas, I use WinX for some tools (Alarm panels, Electronic locks and Security Camera tools), always have to make sure the system is all up to date before heading out as it's a pain with updating and don't need that happening on site...grrrrrrr

I don't see how folks put up with it on a day to day basis....

[deano_ferrari]

Hi
Alas, I use WinX for some tools (Alarm panels, Electronic locks and Security Camera tools), always have to make sure the system is all up to date before heading out as it's a pain with updating and don't need that happening on site...grrrrrrr

Yes, I ensure updates are done prior to site visits (especially remote high sites) or crucial work has to be done.

I don't see how folks put up with it on a day to day basis....

Truth be told, I haven't been impacted that much by my work laptop with Windows 10 installed. Yes, there are updates, but I'm offered to have them install outside of work hours etc, and I usually do so when at home. That said, I still prefer the overall security and reliability of my Linux environments.