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    Question Will Leap 42.2 ship with LXDE or LXQT?

    Hi

    I can't seem to find information about this...

    Will Leap 42.2 ship with LXDE or with LXQt?

    If it's LXQt, is it the 0.11 version???

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeccyMan View Post
    Will Leap 42.2 ship with LXDE or with LXQt?
    With both.

    If it's LXQt, is it the 0.11 version???
    Yes, 0.11 has been accepted to 42.2 two days ago.

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    Default Re: Will Leap 42.2 ship with LXDE or LXQT?

    GREAT NEWS

    But isn't it a waste of space to ship the DVD with LXDE as well (specially since it's planned for it to go down the drain)???

    LXDE could be available for download as a pattern instead...

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    Default Re: Will Leap 42.2 ship with LXDE or LXQT?

    both lxde and kxqt are tiny compared to gnome 3 or plasma 5
    DVD?
    unless you have limited bandwidth or you install on multiple machines what's the point of the dvd as opensuse is constantly updated the dvd will become obsolete in a week or two, if you have a running 13.x or 42.1 just do a live upgrade if not use the net installer and only download packages you need (without gnome or plasma 5) the installer will download a lot less then 4.2 GB

    lxde won't be going down the drain it just won't be upgraded, if the main devs decided to move to qt5 from gtk2 it doesn't mean someone else won't pickup the project give it time and see, kde3 is still maintained by the trinity project and it was abandoned by the kde devs almost 8 years ago

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    Default Re: Will Leap 42.2 ship with LXDE or LXQT?

    For clarity,
    I don't know whether LXDE will continue to be offered as a standard "other" Desktop option if LXQT might be offered as it has been up to LEAP 42.1,
    But I expect that both will be available along with other Desktops like Enlightenment if you check to use the online repositories during your install (Checking this box turns your install into a NET type install instead of an offline DVD install).

    If someone already knows exactly what will be offered as an offline install, they can update on my speculation.

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    Default Re: Will Leap 42.2 ship with LXDE or LXQT?

    Quote Originally Posted by tsu2 View Post
    For clarity,
    I don't know whether LXDE will continue to be offered as a standard "other" Desktop option if LXQT might be offered as it has been up to LEAP 42.1
    For Beta3, it is still LXDE available on the DVD.

    RC1 should be out next week. Whatever we see there is probably what will be on the final release (though with updates for the final release).
    openSUSE Leap 15.1; KDE Plasma 5;
    testing Leap 15.2Alpha

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_A View Post
    DVD?
    unless you have limited bandwidth or you install on multiple machines what's the point of the dvd as opensuse is constantly updated the dvd will become obsolete in a week or two, if you have a running 13.x or 42.1 just do a live upgrade if not use the net installer and only download packages you need (without gnome or plasma 5) the installer will download a lot less then 4.2 GB
    That's definitely true for Tumbleweed, less so for a fixed release as Leap.
    Though of course there will be updates too, and after a while the updates may be quite many.

    Anyway, I never said both will be part of the DVD.
    I don't know really.
    There's quite much stuff missing from the DVD due to space limitations...

    Both are/will be part of the standard online repo though.

    lxde won't be going down the drain it just won't be upgraded, if the main devs decided to move to qt5 from gtk2 it doesn't mean someone else won't pickup the project give it time and see, kde3 is still maintained by the trinity project and it was abandoned by the kde devs almost 8 years ago
    Right, this is open source after all.

    In the case of LXDE/LXQT, AIUI only some developers left to create LXQT, the rest keep LXDE alive/updated.
    Though I don't think anyone really plans to upgrade LXDE to use GTK3 (that was actually the reason to even consider using Qt instead), they rather will stick to GTK2 I think.
    But I'm not really involved there.

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    Ok, enjoying LXQt so far.

    But there's one thing bothering me: Why is there a xdg-su window, where one has to insert password and can't close it while one, for example, wants to be working with yast???

    Visible here: https://en.opensuse.org/images/thumb..._yast_42.2.png

    This was not present at LXDE. In LXDE we would get a dialog to insert root password and after that it would go away.

    Is this a LXQt "problem" or an OpenSuse problem?

    Has anyone have any idea?

    (Update: Thought this https://forums.opensuse.org/showthre...light=lxqt+xdg would already be solved by now......)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeccyMan View Post
    OIs this a LXQt "problem" or an OpenSuse problem?
    It is a "problem" in xdg-su.
    It doesn't support/know LXQT, and therefore uses the fallback path, running "su -" in a terminal window.

    Though LXQT support has actually been added in the latest update (also released for 42.2), from the update description:
    Code:
    This update for xdg-utils fixes the following issues:
    
    - boo#959912: xdg-su did not recognize LXQt session, add LXQt support
    
    The following changes are also included:
    
    - xdg-mime: support for KDE Frameworks 5.6
    - xdg-mime does not write the file it reads in a query (BR95051)
    - xdg-screensaver: Add cinnamon-screensaver D-Bus API support.
    - xdg-open: standardize output redirection style
    (https://build.opensuse.org/patchinfo...5201/patchinfo)

    So check that you installed all updates.

    And also check that lxqt-sudo is installed, if it isn't found xdg-su will use the fallback too.

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    Default Re: Will Leap 42.2 ship with LXDE or LXQT?

    Quote Originally Posted by SpeccyMan View Post
    Ok, enjoying LXQt so far.

    But there's one thing bothering me: Why is there a xdg-su window, where one has to insert password and can't close it while one, for example, wants to be working with yast???

    Visible here: https://en.opensuse.org/images/thumb..._yast_42.2.png

    This was not present at LXDE. In LXDE we would get a dialog to insert root password and after that it would go away.

    Is this a LXQt "problem" or an OpenSuse problem?

    Has anyone have any idea?

    (Update: Thought this https://forums.opensuse.org/showthre...light=lxqt+xdg would already be solved by now......)
    What you describe and a few other problems I've noticed suggest that 42.2 still does not support LXQt (and LXDE) properly and completely.

    At the moment, the <only> 100% solution I've found is to
    - Install 42.1 with online sources enabled which supports installing LXDE initially as your Desktop
    - You can then add the LXQt Desktop
    - After the above, <then> upgrade to 42.2

    The result is a fully working LXQt without the xdg-su window, fully installs all the LXQt applications, the menu structure and configuration is complete, the LXDE login page exists, and as far as I can see all the window decorations are installed and working.

    It's very different than the many attempts I tried to install LXDE/LXQt into 42.2 directly.

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