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    Default Online Sales Affiliate programs.

    Dear Friends,

    I have no time sadly to go to OpenSuSE conferences. It brakes my heart by sadly i can not attend.
    But I would like to raise an issue that could make the life very interesting to OpenSuSE.
    I know I am going to get some fire on this but please do so.
    Your opinion is important to this idea.
    I've seen a competitor distro (cof ...cof ... cof ... name starts with Ubun ... ) making their browser start on the Amazon.com affiliate program of theirs. (they also enabled personal data spying stuff inside on their 16 release but that's for another thread
    The said distro does have an Affiliate agreement with the above mentioned online merchant.
    My point is Would OpenSuSE had such agreement I would have Gladly followed OpenSuSE links and you guys would get a Kickback from my purchases.
    Why not explore this EASY and Straightforward source of revenue?
    It's simple, costs nothing, requires Little Works and it's done very very fast!
    I've recently had to acquire some hardware, some hard drives and SSD's, and sadly the best price for those particular models were on the dreadful amazon site.
    Many other vendors have online affiliate programs like that where that and give a bit of a revenue in exchange for Customer purchases.

    I strongly Urge the OpenSuSE Board to think about this possibility.
    As a long time Lizard fanatic I worry about the OpenSuSE project and I think this could be a very good source of revenue for OpenSuSE ... just saying ... thought about this last week when I was making the purchases.
    Also of course, I must stress that not only the big merchants like Amazon have such programs ... many others exist and also I think you guys could have multiple partners to make a steady stream of revenue possible.

    What do you guys think about the idea ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by keyb_user View Post
    What do you guys think about the idea ?
    Nothing.

    The distribution called "openSUSE" is a community-driven project, there are employees of SUSE working on the distro as a template for SLED/SLES and they already get paid, so first decision would be "who else should be getting the affiliate revenue".

    Volunteers (like me) doing some packaging/bug reports/etc.?

    Fine, and how should it be distributed?

    Not to mention the privacy issues related to using the "online marketing cancer" no matter for what product.

    AK

    P.S.

    It's simple, costs nothing, requires Little Works...
    Well, in most cases this only means you are not the customer but you (=your data) are the product.

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    Hi,

    Money could go to say paying for the conference, making more marketing material ... so many things can be done withe revenue from the OpenSuSE team ...
    I am not advocating any personal gains from that revenue but it is always good to haev some loose change in order to pay for expenses for ... say promoting OpenSuSE at Linux and Open Source events.
    Those events do not cost zero btw ...

    About the privacy issue.
    I was refering to Ubun ... the distro that can not be named and that has nothing to do with the amazon affiliate program.

    Amazon and the big bad online retailers wiill get your data anytime you purchase something there. There is no way about it.
    The only info you are giving them is simply they would know you're a OpenSuSE advocate/user.
    The ubun ... thing is another story totally Orwellian. They say on their user agreement they will Share their users online and/or? OS usage data with "third parties" ... and by sharing they may mean -> Selling .... very very different scenario and nothing btw related to the Amazon or others online shops affiliate programs.
    Please I do not want to make incorrect accusation about other distros so please do no quote me on the above comments. I did not read the entire source of that news. But whatever they do with the private date it is Not Related to the Amazon or other affiliate program.

    Why can not OpenSuSE do the same ?
    I truly see no problem in this and it is a wasted opportunity if the team does not take advantage of such programs.
    Always remember OpenSuSE users that do not wish to use such online functionality don't have to ...
    Again the privacy issue I mentioned was just a lateral thing nothing related to the idea being discussed in here.
    I truly see no reason why this is not done already ...

    Regards,

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    On Mon 05 Dec 2016 04:46:02 PM CST, keyb user wrote:

    Hi,

    Money could go to say paying for the conference, making more marketing
    material ... so many things can be done withe revenue from the OpenSuSE
    team ...
    Hi
    Why do you think openSUSE needs money?

    There is the travel program to help users get to a conference (assuming
    time is available).

    Better to make a donation for example to the packman folks.. buy some
    server time etc... help buy some more hardware, pay for the power
    bill...

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    Hi Malcolm!

    It is just an idea and this is something that costs Nothing to those supporting OpenSuSE for decades like me.
    In my particular case I would have payed exactly the same for that hardware or anything else for that matter. So yes I prefer to support OpenSuSE in that way.It
    It's easy, costs nothing.

    Also in the example you mentioned ... OpenSuSE could support with that revenue say Packman for the great work they do to the distro ... or so many other projects that the _users_ have no idea need some support ...
    That could be of course all Open and very very transparent.

    ..Again: Why not do it ?

    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    Hi
    Why do you think openSUSE needs money?

    There is the travel program to help users get to a conference (assuming
    time is available).

    Better to make a donation for example to the packman folks.. buy some
    server time etc... help buy some more hardware, pay for the power
    bill...

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyb_user View Post
    Hi Malcolm!

    It is just an idea and this is something that costs Nothing to those supporting OpenSuSE for decades like me.
    In my particular case I would have payed exactly the same for that hardware or anything else for that matter. So yes I prefer to support OpenSuSE in that way.It
    It's easy, costs nothing.

    Also in the example you mentioned ... OpenSuSE could support with that revenue say Packman for the great work they do to the distro ... or so many other projects that the _users_ have no idea need some support ...
    That could be of course all Open and very very transparent.

    ..Again: Why not do it ?



    Regards,
    Hi
    Because of the nature of packman, there should be no association like that due to legal issues. Just like openSUSE (it's been discussed numerous times on the ML's) AFAIK, it would need to become a foundation.

    I think Per Jessen proposed something awhile back (Project, General or Marketing ML's)..
    https://lists.opensuse.org/

    Why not promote openSUSE in your area? An install-fest of such like, you can contact the marketing team (on the ML) I'm sure they will provide goodies eg install media etc..
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    Hi Malcolm!

    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    Hi
    Because of the nature of packman, there should be no association like that due to legal issues. Just like openSUSE (it's been discussed numerous times on the ML's) AFAIK, it would need to become a foundation.
    ummm ok ... look I "aint' no lawyer" so I'm sorry that was not something I considered, the legal part of the issue.
    But ..apparently .. the distro that can not be named ( cof cof cof name starts with Ubu ... something ) as no such Legal restraints ... they're doing it ... just sayin' ...


    I think Per Jessen proposed something awhile back (Project, General or Marketing ML's)..
    https://lists.opensuse.org/

    Why not promote openSUSE in your area? An install-fest of such like, you can contact the marketing team (on the ML) I'm sure they will provide goodies eg install media etc..
    I apologize since I do not read the marketing ml ... time is scarse for the fora, news, blogs and my own development ... )
    I will not insist if this was already discussed, I was just putting the thing out there for consideration ...

    About the install fest Malcolm ...I wish in my area folks would not bother me with windoze bugs and crashes, totally smashed systems after virus/malware and the like ...
    I truly try to hide the fact that I work on IT not joking Folks around me are totally lost in terms of their IT "choices" ... and truly I have no more patience for ignorance.
    Most users I know would have a hard time making the transition sadly.

    Regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyb_user View Post
    Hi Malcolm!
    ummm ok ... look I "aint' no lawyer" so I'm sorry that was not something I considered, the legal part of the issue.
    But ..apparently .. the distro that can not be named ( cof cof cof name starts with Ubu ... something ) as no such Legal restraints ... they're doing it ... just sayin' ...
    So, does that mean if I asked you to jump off the top off a flight of stairs... you would

    One other option is to support our primary sponsor and use SLED and a subscription... just like running openSUSE Leap 42.2 at present... Plasma should be up on PackageHub one day...
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    Hi,

    The Board has discussed this repeatedly and have come to the following conclusions

    - Financially the Project as a whole is in a very healthy state, and we rarely/never expend the funding we receive from our primary sponsor, SUSE. I can never remember a time where a justified request from the openSUSE Project has been met with an answer of 'no'.
    - For events like openSUSE Conference and openSUSE Asia we request additional sponsors, including individual ticket sales, to spread the financial burden and allow us to do extra things like pay for social events, food for attendees and extras. We always manage to cover what we 'need' and often cover more of what we 'want' than expected.
    - Outside of the above, we really have no need for money and it would put significant administrative burden on the Project to be able to take such money and distribute it fairly in the project. Accounting laws & taxes suck..

    So, if you want to help the project, CONTRIBUTE, by doing something. Your time, your code, your forum posts, help the project more than a few dollars ever would

    Alternatively, the only other 'medium'-sized way people could help the project is by providing hardware and servers, our Infra Heroes are putting together a specific wish-list of stuff they'd like..but it's also not an area of absolute pain at the moment, just something we'd like to see improve over time.

    Hope this helps
    Last edited by RBrownSUSE; 05-Dec-2016 at 13:18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBrownSUSE View Post
    So, if you want to help the project, CONTRIBUTE, by doing something. Your time, your code, your forum posts, help the project more than a few dollars ever would
    The open source (or open community) philosophy -- Pay it forward.
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