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    Default Will the Windows 8 mistakes cause Windows users to switch to Linux & openSuse?

    I'm a Windows user for over 15 years, and planning to switch to OpenSuse once I figure some things out. I've been using Windows 7 in the last years and planned switching to Windows 8, until I heard some bad news about it. Apart from the Metro UI and Microsoft's new App system (similar to Linux's software repositories but more restrictive), Windows 8 requires a Microsoft account to even create a local username and log into Windows. I believe this takes Windows closer to the restrictive type of computing, where computers would eventually be centralized into one big server and everyone would need an account with "the one big machine" to even use their computer locally. Certainly, I'm never getting an OS like that and sticking with Windows 7.

    My question is how much this will cause Windows users to switch over to Linux. Since OpenSuse is one of the first distros (possibly second place after Ubuntu) this addresses it especially. Will Windows users disappointed with the new restrictive ways Microsoft have chosen switch to Linux permanently? I've already been wanting to switch to Linux for some time (technical difficulties kept me) but after hearing about Windows 8, I totally know it must happen for me. How many others feel the same way and have already migrated?
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    Default Re: Will the Windows 8 mistakes cause Windows users to switch toLinux & openSuse?

    On 08/30/2012 05:06 PM, MirceaKitsune wrote:
    > How many others feel
    > the same way and have already migrated?


    i migrated away from Windows when i got tired of waiting for Win95, and
    left 3.11 and moved to OS/2 in early '95....and then beginning in 1998
    started learning Linux...by 2002 i just never needed to boot OS/2 again..

    today i have no Windows based programs i depend on, or even use...have
    not booted the Win7 that came on this machine when i bought it--i did
    use it a couple of days while i downloaded and burned an openSUSE
    install disk (which took FOREVER)...today, i don't even have WINE
    installed..

    so, a Microsoft-free existence is not only possible, but very freeing
    and rewarding..

    however, free and open source software is not cost free--you will have
    to decide to do some learning, exercise patience and ENJOY the ride..

    otherwise, the only other reasonable non-MS way is Apple (and *lots*
    more money)

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    Default Re: Will the Windows 8 mistakes cause Windows users to switch to Linux & openSuse?

    Quote Originally Posted by MirceaKitsune View Post
    Windows 8 requires a Microsoft account to even create a local username and log into Windows.
    That's very interesting. I can't find anything to confirm it, can you provide a link?

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    Default Re: Will the Windows 8 mistakes cause Windows users to switch to Linux & openSuse?

    A few weeks ago, I purchased a new PC with Windows 7 on it. I also got a coupon to upgrade to Windows 8 for like $15. From what I have been hearing, I will not touch Windows 8. The only (and main) reason people will stick with Windows PCs is for gaming. I know of two people (non-gamers) who replaced their home computers with tablets, as all they do is email, social media and Netflix.
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    Default Re: Will the Windows 8 mistakes cause Windows users to switch to Linux & openSuse?

    Quote Originally Posted by MirceaKitsune View Post
    My question is how much this will cause Windows users to switch over to Linux.
    Probably most will stay with Windows7 until MS launches Windows9 (i.e., 8 without Metro) to appease consumers, just like it happened with Vista - most people stayed with XP until W7 came out.

    I hope I'm proved wrong, but I'm afraid the account thing - if it exist - will not be removed, people care more about the UI than the philosophy behind it, unfortunately.

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    Default Re: Will the Windows 8 mistakes cause Windows users to switch to Linux & openSuse?

    Windows 8 requires a Microsoft account to even create a local username and log into Windows.
    At least on the beta/rc thingy I tried in vmware it did allow me to create a local account to log in. Though I think I still needed a ms account to download anything from windows store, even free stuff.

    My question is how much this will cause Windows users to switch over to Linux.
    I would hope it would just convince folk that open source is a valid option and let them make a decision to use it. I think most folk will try to convince themselves Microsoft's way is the right way, or as was said just stick to what they know. Personally I find it odd when uses ditch the current version of Windows and use the previously supported version run by the same company. It is like having a bad experience and still shuffling money their way. Vote with your wallets. All that money given to them from windows 7 is what made windows 8 possible.

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    Default Re: Will the Windows 8 mistakes cause Windows users to switch to Linux & openSuse?

    I'd had a couple of looks at Linux but didn't switch (with the exception of my Laptop which dual boots with Vista) to it until I decided I needed to move from Windows 2000. I didn't like what MS was doing with WPA on XP and took another look at Linux. This time, I found OpenSuse (9.2 then) suited me (and later along the line, my parents) nicely.

    Working along the lines that Linux is even better as a desktop system now and imagining that things had worked out differently then (perhaps feeling Linux wasn't quite ready for me) and I'd opted to stick with Windows. I feel confident in saying that, for me, this new requirement (assuming it is true) would prompt another evaluation of Linux and that I would switch.

    That said, while I'm pretty sure I would switch to Linux if I was in that situation, I'm doubtful that many will change over.

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    Default Re: Will the Windows 8 mistakes cause Windows users to switch to Linux & openSuse?

    Quote Originally Posted by chief_sealth View Post
    That's very interesting. I can't find anything to confirm it, can you provide a link?
    I tried the Windows 8 beta (release candidate) a few months ago on VirtualBox. I can confirm it required a Microsoft account, and automatically an internet connection for the first login. I thought it's only for the beta, but people are saying this is also for the final version.
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    Default Re: Will the Windows 8 mistakes cause Windows users to switch toLinux & openSuse?

    On 2012-08-31 12:56, Wrexxman wrote:
    > The only (and main) reason people
    > will stick with Windows PCs is for gaming.


    Not true.
    I use Windows in this laptop and I have not a single game in it.

    I use Windows because it is a requirement of some hardware I bought, like a gps (tomtom), a cellular
    phone (nokia), an ebook (kobo). All those devices require a Windows machine to run the updates and
    uploads.

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    Default Re: Will the Windows 8 mistakes cause Windows users to switch toLinux & openSuse?

    In all seriousness initially I suspect 1 out of 100 will switch to Linux, 15 out of 100 will go to Apple, 20 out of 100 will just go to a pad to stay, 34 out of 100 will stay with 7, 15 out of 100 are still in XP, 10 out of 100 will go for 8, the remainder will just throw up their hands & if they can leave the whole thing.
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