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    Lightbulb Making an OpenSUSE Stuid wth Semplice's Openbox-Vera-Desktop?

    First off let me put all cards on the table and tell you that I am by no means an expert when it comes to developing (or even using) Linux; however, I have always found that working with another person or within a group helps me to learn stuff like that more efficiently.

    Now here's my request, which I would love to get some feedback on.

    I really like the desktop environment that is custom build for Semplice Linux, a Debian Sid/Jesse fork. Everything else on the other hand is garbage and never, ever, works properly. While they supposedly pride themselves on having both a cutting edge rolling release as well as a solid static version as well. To quote them directly:
    "The first one [Semplice Current: 7.0.1 "Comfortably Numb"] is more up-to-date and is rolling-release. If you like livin' [sic] on the edge, you should choose this.

    The latter one [Semplice for Workstations: 2015.2 "Jethro Tull"] is ideal for those who like a reliable and rock-solid Operating System."
    Well, their rolling release was last pushed on April, 13th, 2015. Ubuntu and Mate's static release schedule updates more frequently than that. To me, that is not a rolling release, despite their claim.

    Secondly, their rock solid released was pushed on September 18th, 2015. Even for a "static-get-everything-working-perfectly-before-releasing-it" distribution class, that seems an awfully long time. Not to mention that while Openbox-Vera-Desktop looks and acts like it has the potential to be great option for people who find minimalistic OSes that just work; theirs crashes frequently. As an example, when I gave it a shot in a VM today, it had a core dump, resulting from my egregious error of plugging in my headphones. After rebooting, I found that I actually had to plug the headphones back in or else it would core dump again. So the core dumped when headphones were removed, then dumped when they were not connected, and would not launch until they were. And of course, (you can guess what's coming next), would crash if I tried to remove the headphones once again. So it's sort of like telling people that you keep kosher, but that your favorite sandwich is a grilled cheese and ham with bacon.

    So enough of my griping, what I'd really like to find out is whether anybody would like to work with me to create an Openbox-Vera-Desktop version of OpenSUSE? I have very little doubt that our attempts could never be as bad as theirs, and could probably be a fun challenge.

    If you'd like to give this a shot with me, I'd like to see what we could come up with!

    Thanks for listening gals and guys!






    ~ Ev



    PS - Semplice, if you're going to use musical names for your releases, at least stick with either bands or songs. Or even songs of a certain band. Next time, don't follow this method and choose something similar to "Comfortably Numb" and "Jethro Tull" respective releases. Jethro Tull never sung Comfortably Numb. That was Pink Floyd. ... Morons.


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    Default Re: Making an OpenSUSE Stuid wth Semplice's Openbox-Vera-Desktop?

    You may be able to install the vala Desktop on openSUSE...

    It appears that the vala Desktop is an offshoot of Gnome.
    This is the Desktop project page
    https://github.com/vera-desktop/vera

    Skimming the Desktop dependencies and brief documentation on the homepage,
    Most of the dependencies look like they're common and cross-platform between distros.
    I haven't seen valac, so that may require some investigation (or may be available)
    https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala

    More info about the vala language, it looks like vala is an effort within Gnome to build Gnome apps and "things."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vala_(...ming_language)

    Based on what I was able to find,
    - You may be able to build the Vala Desktop on any distro including openSUSE.
    - I'd recommend you decide whether to build an OBS Vala project only after you investigate just building on a generic openSUSE (TW or LEAP). You <may> want to add special Gnome repos to enhance your selection of Gnome packages. Once you've successfully built on your own machine, I'd recommend you recommend a Pattern, possibly write up a Wiki page (See my post signature how to create your own Wiki pages) and only <then> decide whether you still wish to create a virtual machine or LiveCD (using OBS).

    And yes, it appears that if you are successful building vala Desktop on openSUSE you'll have all the benefits ot the openSUSE ecology under the surface while enjoying your vala Desktop.

    HTH,
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