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Thread: Is there a problem with the NNTP gateway? {Won't let me post}

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    Default Is there a problem with the NNTP gateway? {Won't let me post}

    I was using it to read and reply to my thread on the applications forum. But when I tried to post my followup alpine got this error:
    Code:
    [Error posting message: 441 Posting Failed (Rejected by POST filter)]
    So reopened the folder (to make sure was properly connected) and tried again. Same result.
    So I bothered logging in to the HTTP gateway, finding the thread and pasting my followup text into the forum message composer dialog.
    see: https://forums.opensuse.org/showthre...88#post2782588
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    Default Re: Is there a problem with the NNTP gateway? {Won't let me post}

    Responding to you via NNTP; I use it full time as well, though from
    Thunderbird, and posted just a couple of seconds ago, so I presume it's
    working.


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    Default Re: Is there a problem with the NNTP gateway? {Won't let me post}


    It would appear that on Jun 17, ab did say:

    > Responding to you via NNTP; I use it full time as well, though from
    > Thunderbird, and posted just a couple of seconds ago, so I presume it's
    > working.


    Yeah, if it was an interface problem it was real short lived...

    But I suspect it might have been something that crept in to my habitual hand coding
    of the message body with vim. I have a vague memory of having a similar problem that
    boiled down to using vim's insert mode's ^K to select certain non-keyboard characters,

    Such as wrapping some text string in opening and closing single quotes:
    Quote Originally Posted by where ^K is ctrl+k
    Code:
    ^K'6 some text string ^K'9
    Which I did NOT do this time. But I may have pasted in some text that wasn't
    restricted to pure ASCII...

    > If you find this post helpful and are logged into the web interface,
    > show your appreciation and click on the star below...


    Sorry, once again using NNTP so 'no got star to click on...'

    Thank you for your quick response. I was mentally burned out trying to debug my
    laptop's clean install of Leap, with (at the time) a backlight issue that made it
    hard to see the text I was editing. Since then I got some wonderful help on the
    Applications Forum that has resolved most of those issues. So real soon I expect to be
    back working on my book...

    Thanks again!

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    JtWdyP


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    Default Re: Is there a problem with the NNTP gateway? {Won't let me post}

    On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 15:39:19 +0000, JtWdyP wrote:

    > But I suspect it might have been something that crept in to my habitual
    > hand coding of the message body with vim. I have a vague memory of
    > having a similar problem that boiled down to using vim's insert mode's
    > ^K to select certain non-keyboard characters,


    Yep, that's likely it. What you saw wasn't a gateway error, it was an
    NNTP server response. The gateway periodically scrapes the web side and
    NNTP side (not precisely, but close enough for discussion) and keeps
    things in sync.

    The 441 you received was content-related. No idea what was tripping it,
    but we have a post filter that looks for certain things that we know
    might choke the gateway.

    Jim

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    Default Re: Is there a problem with the NNTP gateway? {Won't let me post}


    It would appear that on Jun 20, Jim Henderson did say:

    > Yep, that's likely it. What you saw wasn't a gateway error, it was an
    > NNTP server response. The gateway periodically scrapes the web side and
    > NNTP side (not precisely, but close enough for discussion) and keeps
    > things in sync.
    >
    > The 441 you received was content-related. No idea what was tripping it,
    > but we have a post filter that looks for certain things that we know
    > might choke the gateway.


    And that is why, when I get such an error, an exact copy of the entire
    message body of the rejected post can usually be pasted into the web interface's
    compose editor's content field, and post successfully. What the gateway gets when
    it 'scrapes the web side'must be able to accept many of non-ASCII characters,
    that it might have choked on, coming from the 'NNTP server'??

    Thanks for the explanation Jim.

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    Default Re: Is there a problem with the NNTP gateway? {Won't let me post}

    On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:40:08 +0000, JtWdyP wrote:

    > And that is why, when I get such an error, an exact copy of the
    > entire message body of the rejected post can usually be pasted into the
    > web interface's compose editor's content field, and post successfully.
    > What the gateway gets when it 'scrapes the web side'must be able
    > to accept many of non-ASCII characters,
    > that it might have choked on, coming from the 'NNTP server'??


    No idea, that's just one reason why it would reject the post - there are
    others, such as incorrect character encoding, I think if it's multipart/
    MIME it'll reject it, and so on.

    Jim

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