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    Default Unable to install Vivaldi browser or Kodi mutimedia box

    I installed OpenSuse Leap 42.1 on a friends computer and he asked me to install two apps that he uses a lot - Kodi and the new Vivaldi browser. For the browser, I downloaded the 64 bit RPM file(his system is 64bit) and Yast keeps having a problem with the package handler. Tried the 32 bit file - got same result. Redownloaded both files but still same issue. Next we tried to do Kodi using the following instructions - sudo zypper ar -f -n packman http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/pa...p_42.1/packman. Although the syntax was copied from the web site instruction, the response was "if only one argument is used, must be a valid URL". I then tried to get Kodi via Yast but it couldn't find anything either using Kodi or XBMC. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to install these apps.
    My friend, who has Linux Mint and isn't impressed with Leap at this point, had me install both apps on a copy of Linux Mint on my laptop. The browser installed from the 32bit file without any issues and Kodi was super easy to install - just had to type a couple of commands and it was done and runs fantastic. I may not go back to using Kodi on my Android box.
    One final issue - using Xterm in Leap, is there any way to make the fonts larger. I can enlarge the Xterm window but the font stay as small as ever. Hard on my old eyes!
    I would appreciate any suggestions on these issues. Thanks.

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    Default Re: Unable to install Vivaldi browser or Kodi mutimedia box

    Quote Originally Posted by horhota View Post
    I installed OpenSuse Leap 42.1 on a friends computer and he asked me to install two apps that he uses a lot - Kodi and the new Vivaldi browser. For the browser, I downloaded the 64 bit RPM file(his system is 64bit) and Yast keeps having a problem with the package handler. Tried the 32 bit file - got same result. Redownloaded both files but still same issue. Next we tried to do Kodi using the following instructions - sudo zypper ar -f -n packman http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/pa...p_42.1/packman. Although the syntax was copied from the web site instruction, the response was "if only one argument is used, must be a valid URL". I then tried to get Kodi via Yast but it couldn't find anything either using Kodi or XBMC. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to install these apps.
    My friend, who has Linux Mint and isn't impressed with Leap at this point, had me install both apps on a copy of Linux Mint on my laptop. The browser installed from the 32bit file without any issues and Kodi was super easy to install - just had to type a couple of commands and it was done and runs fantastic. I may not go back to using Kodi on my Android box.
    One final issue - using Xterm in Leap, is there any way to make the fonts larger. I can enlarge the Xterm window but the font stay as small as ever. Hard on my old eyes!
    I would appreciate any suggestions on these issues. Thanks.
    mint is a fork of a fork of an deb based distro and has little in common with opensuse, with their latest blunder I'd avoid mint and I'm not a fan of the source for their OS ie canonical.
    (their website was hacked and their iso replaced with a hacked version that included malevare)
    opensuse has a much larger organization behind it and is more secure and feature rich, bugs are fixed fast and we get updates often, the only down side to opensuse is it's policy of including only patent free and opensource software but that is why we have packman.

    first thing's first you copied the packman info wrong even I can see that do this (you can copy/paste it)
    Code:
    zypper ar -f http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Leap_42.1/ packman
    zypper dup --from packman
    zypper in kodi
    For vivaldi I don't know what your error was or how you wore trying to install it, but do this:

    Code:
    zypper in https://downloads.vivaldi.com/stable/vivaldi-stable-1.1.453.52-1.x86_64.rpm
    if it does not install paste the error here and we'll help

    it's always a good idea to tell us your repo list
    Code:
    zypper lr -d

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    Default Re: Unable to install Vivaldi browser or Kodi mutimedia box

    vivaldi do have an rpm repo available so try to install from their repo
    Code:
    zypper ar -f http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/rpm/x86_64/ vivaldi
    zypper in vivaldi-stable
    if that does not work try
    Code:
    zypper in vivaldi-stable-1.1.453.52

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    Default Re: Unable to install Vivaldi browser or Kodi mutimedia box

    I downloaded the rpm file from vivaldi's site and installed it with rpm -i which besides the installation itself automagically added the repository.

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    Thanks to both of you for the excellent information. I used I_A suggestions for kodi and it installed quickly and without any problems. I was going to use I_A suggestion for Vivaldi but then saw Zindot's suggestion and tried it. That also worked very well and I am grateful to both of you for the advice.
    It was interesting to read I_A's remarks on Linux Mint. I tend to agree and that's why I've been pushing ahead with OpenSuse Leap. There's no doubt that Mint is a very slick and easy to use Linux Distro but, based on my reading on Leap, I think it will turn out to be a better distro in time. It has a significantly higher learning curve than Mint to be sure. It was frustrating and embarassing to see how easy it was to install Kodi and Vivaldi using Mint on my friends pc. I'm new to Leap and I've been satisfied with the apps that came with it so venturing into installing new apps on my friends box was probably foolish. I had read the Unofficial guide to OpenSuseLeap 42.1 instructions on installing software but they were a bit lacking. I need to find a better guide or maybe experience will be enough. So thanks again for your help and comments.

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    Default Re: Unable to install Vivaldi browser or Kodi mutimedia box

    what mint does is it takes ubuntu (or debian) distributions and adds multimedia support (which debian and canonical do not include for legal reasons) but mint is a one man show (or a few men show) so they can't really provide real support or even security, the fact that it has multimedia support makes it popular
    http://thehackernews.com/2016/02/linux-mint-hack.html

    adding multimedia in opensuse is a 2 line command
    Code:
    zypper ar -f http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/<opensuse_version_goes_here> packman
    zypper dup --from packman
    that's it all you need is the above, you need to edit <opensuse_version_goes_here> to the opensuse version you have 13.2 or openSUSE_Leap_42.1 or openSUSE_Tumbleweed but that's simple enough. and unlike mint opensuse has a lot of updates I mean a lot, some people don't like that and usually update once a week or once a month but daily updates are often, something a few men show like mint can't provide.

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    Thank you for the information. I decided to try your example and install a few other applications just for learning. I use VLC media player occasionally so I went back into zypper and packman and did an install for vlc. It shows up on my multimedia menu but when I try to open it is shows in the launcher for a few seconds and then disappears - no message, no error nothing. There were no visible errors when I used zypper either - there were a ton of messages and downloads so something could have slipped by but in the end it seemed to have completed normally. so I tried to uninstall it and then found an OpenSuse website that had a button to install for Leap42.1. That downloaded a ymp file but Yast would not open it. In fact, it was similar to VLC - it would show up in the task bar circling for a few minutes and then disappear.
    Next, I tried a torrent client that I like called tixati. It wasn't in packman but I had already downloaded an rpm file for the current version so I tried the rpm-i method. It came back saying it was missing a dependency called libdbus. So I went to a opensuse software website - found dozens of the libdus files with the same version number so I picked the one closest to the one mentioned in the rpm -i error message. I then tried to install it with rpm -i but it failed, saying it conflicted with the version of libdbus already installed! If it was already installed, why is tixati missing it. Perhaps this is a subject for a new thread but this whole app install process is frustrating. After doing Kodi and Vivaldi, I felt good and thought I was on the right track. Bottom line is that adding apps or programs should not be this complicated and frustrating. I see your point about Mint but what I'm going through is the other extreme.
    If you prefer I'll open a new thread for this tomorrow. Thanks for your help and for listening.

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    Default Re: Unable to install Vivaldi browser or Kodi mutimedia box

    that shouldn't happen
    vlc works fine here on LEAP, did you maybe add the vlc repo, the package from the vlc repo works but it conflicts with other packman packages
    what's your repo list
    Code:
    zypper lr -d

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    Default Re: Unable to install Vivaldi browser or Kodi mutimedia box

    Thank you for your interest and reply.
    As you asked, here is the zypper lr -d output:
    Code:
    linux-rulp:~> zypper lr -d
    #  | Alias                     | Name                                    | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                                     | Service
    ---+---------------------------+-----------------------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+----------+--------+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
     1 | openSUSE-42.1-0           | openSUSE-42.1-0                         | No      | ----      | No      |   99     | yast2  | hd:///?device=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-20001020000060804-part2              |        
     2 | packman                   | packman                                 | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Leap_42.1/      |        
     3 | repo-debug                | openSUSE-Leap-42.1-Debug                | No      | ----      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/42.1/repo/oss/     |        
     4 | repo-debug-non-oss        | openSUSE-Leap-42.1-Debug-Non-Oss        | No      | ----      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/42.1/repo/non-oss/ |        
     5 | repo-debug-update         | openSUSE-Leap-42.1-Update-Debug         | No      | ----      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/42.1/oss                 |        
     6 | repo-debug-update-non-oss | openSUSE-Leap-42.1-Update-Debug-Non-Oss | No      | ----      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/42.1/non-oss/            |        
     7 | repo-non-oss              | openSUSE-Leap-42.1-Non-Oss              | No      | ----      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.1/repo/non-oss/       |        
     8 | repo-oss                  | openSUSE-Leap-42.1-Oss                  | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.1/repo/oss/           |        
     9 | repo-source               | openSUSE-Leap-42.1-Source               | No      | ----      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/42.1/repo/oss/    |        
    10 | repo-update               | openSUSE-Leap-42.1-Update               | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.1/oss/                      |        
    11 | repo-update-non-oss       | openSUSE-Leap-42.1-Update-Non-Oss       | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.1/non-oss/                  |        
    12 | vivaldi                   | vivaldi                                 | Yes     | ( p) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://repo.vivaldi.com/archive/rpm/x86_64                              |
    Hope that this pasted properly. I've never tried this before.

    I am grateful that you are willing to explore this but my bigger concern is the complicated procedure to add apps. In days like this where most things are done by point and click, keying in commands and parsing text strings like the above is not common anymore.
    Likewise the tixati problem, I've managed to find what versions of libdbus I have installed but two attempts at downloading the version that tixati "depends on" have failed with the comment that the version installed is newer than what I am downloading. Here again I'm dealing with long string names:
    libdbus-1-3-1.8.16-5.2.x86_64.rpm. One website listed 160-odd libdbus rpm files - trying to find what I need was like looking for a needle in a haystack.
    and typing all this in to use in rpm -i is painful. It would be easier just to have a gui - right click - install option.
    And looking through Yast's huge list of software installed... it just seems that in today's software environment there should be a simpler way.
    Maybe all this is necessary to learn but at the moment it just seems backwards even for an old guy like me(25+ years as a system developer/programmer in IBM mainframe world).

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    Default Re: Unable to install Vivaldi browser or Kodi mutimedia box

    Point and click is in Yast-software Management.

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