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    Question Qt settings: GUI Style issue

    There is this "Qt Settings" preinstalled in Tumbleweed KDE

    I understand you can configure some options about qt applications from there. I think.

    One of them is the "GUI Style"

    By default it is set to "Desktop Settings"

    Which should be the breeze theme. However when I open applications like SUSE imagewriter, libreoffice, kalzium, the GUI style is plastique instead of breeze.
    Changing the "GUI style" from "Qt Settings" to "Breeze" the issue is (partially) fixed. What is not fixed in some applications like SUSE immagewriter is the colour scheme. Which, instead of "breeze" colour scheme, they use a dark blue colour scheme. That cannot be configured by "Qt Settings" for some reason.

    In addition to the odd colour scheme, SUSE imagewriter (and kalzium and some others) use the "Oxygen" icon theme when browsing for an iso or another file instead of the "breeze" icon theme.

    And all these issues are odd because I have selected breeze theme for everything in settings menu (theme, icon, window borders, colors, gnome theme, etc)

    This issue is present only in the latest snapshots of tumbleweed and not in Leap.
    Any ideas?

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    Default Re: Qt settings: GUI Style issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Linux4Pharmacy View Post
    There is this "Qt Settings" preinstalled in Tumbleweed KDE

    I understand you can configure some options about qt applications from there. I think.
    That's Qt4's settings application that is included in the Qt4 packages (and therefore installed by default).
    The settings only apply to Qt4 applications though.

    This issue is present only in the latest snapshots of tumbleweed and not in Leap.
    Any ideas?
    Install kdebase4-workspace-addons, that contains KDE4's plugin for Qt4 that makes Qt4 and KDE4 applications respect the KDE settings.

    It always was installed by default, but might not be any more. IIANM ktorrent was the last thing that required it on a default installation, but that's also KF5 based now.
    We probably should add a dependency somewhere, probably kdebase4-runtime which is required by all KDE4 applications.

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    Default Re: Qt settings: GUI Style issue

    Okay, will do!

    Ktorrent is not installed by default anymore too.

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    Default Re: Qt settings: GUI Style issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Linux4Pharmacy View Post
    Ktorrent is not installed by default anymore too.
    No idea.
    It's been a while since I did a fresh Tumbleweed installation...

    It (the KDE4 version) is installed by default in Leap though, and pulls in kdebase4-workspace-addons for its "Shutdown after downloads have finished" feature.

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    Ok preinstalled applications is not a big deal, someone can just install them afterwards or select them during installation (from YaST software selections)

    But what about availability of packages? I have seen some packages/applications available for leap and not for tumbleweed and vice versa. Or the 32 bit available for tumbleweed while for leap the 64 bit version is available. What determines the availability of packages?

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    Default Re: Qt settings: GUI Style issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Linux4Pharmacy View Post
    But what about availability of packages? I have seen some packages/applications available for leap and not for tumbleweed and vice versa. Or the 32 bit available for tumbleweed while for leap the 64 bit version is available. What determines the availability of packages?
    The answer to that depends on what you actually mean with that in detail.

    I suppose you are talking about the packages included in the standard repos.
    For a package to be available in Tumbleweed, somebody needs to commit himself to maintain the package, and submit it to Factory.
    Previous openSUSE releases were based on and forked off Tumbleweed/Factory at a fixed point in time, and automatically contained all packages that are in Factory.
    Packages that fail to build and are not fixed within a certain time period are removed again. Also, everybody can request removal of a package (there have to be good reasons though of course), just as everybody can request the addition of a package (if he promises to maintain it).

    For Leap, the development has changed a bit: it is based on SLES, and only contained the packages from SLES by default. It was up for the actual package/repo maintainers to decide what packages from Factory they want to submit to Leap (and maintain for the whole Leap life-cycle).

    If a package is missing it might be because of different reasons...

    And Leap is not available for 32bit at all, it does contain some 32bit libraries to be able to run 3rd party 32bit applications though.
    The release manager decided to not do a 32bit release any more, as 64bit CPUs are readily available since 10 years at least.
    Tumbleweed OTOH is still fully available as a 32bit version, mainly because nobody decided to kill the 32bit version yet (but it is completely untested since a while).

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    Yes I'm talking about the official repositories...

    Therefore standard (official) Leap repos contain less software than official Tumbleweed ones?

    But here for example

    https://software.opensuse.org/package/kalarm

    kalarm in tumbleweed is an older version and only 32 bit :/ which confuses me a little

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    Default AW: Re: Qt settings: GUI Style issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Linux4Pharmacy View Post
    Therefore standard (official) Leap repos contain less software than official Tumbleweed ones?
    Not necessarily, but yes they do for 42.1.
    E.g. the whole KDE3 is missing because nobody submitted it (the maintainers apparently weren't aware that they have to actively push it to Leap, or they didn't want to)

    But here for example

    https://software.opensuse.org/package/kalarm

    kalarm in tumbleweed is an older version and only 32 bit :/ which confuses me a little
    That's a "bug" in the search page (or the index).
    kalarm 4.8.2 definitely is *not* available in Tumbleweed, not even in 32bit...
    If you click on the result, you'll actually get an error 404.
    That version is from 2012:
    https://community.kde.org/Schedules/...lease_Schedule

    The KDE4 version (the last one was 4.14.10) has been removed completely a while ago (the whole kdepim4 actually) and was replaced by kalarm5 (15.12.3 at the moment, but 16.04.0 is on the way).
    Last edited by wolfi323; 25-Apr-2016 at 12:35.

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    Default Re: Qt settings: GUI Style issue

    I installed kdebase4-workspace-addons
    All issues seem resolved
    I am worrying for the future though. I have heard that rolling distributions need some kind of "extra work" and "maintenance" from the user that I am not really used to these things

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    Default Re: Qt settings: GUI Style issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Linux4Pharmacy View Post
    I am worrying for the future though. I have heard that rolling distributions need some kind of "extra work" and "maintenance" from the user that I am not really used to these things
    Hm, why did you install a rolling distribution then?

    The constant changes can indeed bring problems you have to solve yourself manually, although especially Tumbleweed should be quite stable in this regard (as long as you are not using 3rd party drivers or applications).
    I wouldn't say that there would be need for extra "maintenance" from the user, if you don't mean installing updates with that. Updates there are a lot of course.

    You can always "downgrade" to a stable release though.

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