When will KDE update to 5.6 on LEAP?

Does anyone know the expected schedule for KDE 5.6 to reach openSUSE LEAP 42.1?

It’s in the KDE repos now.

Hello,

On 23.03.2016 00:26, 6tr6tr wrote:
> Does anyone know the expected schedule for KDE 5.6 to reach openSUSE
> LEAP 42.1?

From the maintenance team, I do not think we are doing to do this
particular version update for 42.1.

Andreas

Hello,

i have tested it now.

it does not work.

Error:
/usr/bin/ksmserver: /usr/lib64/libQt5Core.so.5: version `Qt_5.6.0_PRIVATE_API’ not found (required by /usr/lib64/libKF5Declarative.so.5)

/usr/lib64/libQt5Core.so.5 is this from Repo: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt56/openSUSE_Leap_42.1/

There is no “KDE 5.6”.

And Plasma 5.6 is a major new (feature) version, so will normally not be released as update for a stable openSUSE release.
We made an exception in Leap 42.1 for 5.5, but I’m not sure this will be done for 5.6 as well.

At least there’s no “expected schedule”.

But as has been mentioned already, Plasma 5.6.0 is available in the KDE:Frameworks5 repo since yesterday. Please note, that you also need KDE:Qt5 if you want to use that, for the latest Qt 5.6.

You are using the unstable KDE:Qt56 repo. You should use the stable one (KDE:Qt5) instead, that’s what the packages are built against.
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openSUSE_Leap_42.1/

Anyone knows when/if LXQt will be build against Qt 5.6 I’d like to try the new plasma 5.6 but I don’t want to break LXQt

is the LXQt git repo build against Qt 5.6?
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/LXQt:/git/openSUSE_Leap_42.1/

how current is the git repo as the regular LXQt repo seams to have newer packages?
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/LXQt/openSUSE_Leap_42.1/

Well, the LXQt repo maintainers probably do know whether they plan to provide LXQt built against Qt 5.6 for Leap, and when. :wink:

The Factory/Tumbleweed packages will be built against 5.6 automatically anyway as soon as Qt 5.6.0 enters Factory/Tumbleweed.

is the LXQt git repo build against Qt 5.6?
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/LXQt:/git/openSUSE_Leap_42.1/

No.
It’s built against standard Leap 42.1+Updates, i.e. Qt 5.5.1.
Normally this shouldn’t matter though, but the Qt5 integration plugin (lxqt-qtplugin) might not work, which is necessary so that Qt5 applications respect LXQt’s settings. In the worst case you might have to uninstall it, as it might make Qt5 applications crash.

how current is the git repo as the regular LXQt repo seams to have newer packages?
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/LXQt/openSUSE_Leap_42.1/

They may be “newer”, but they contain the latest released version, while LXQt:git contains later git snapshots.

Hey wolfi323,

What is the correct procedure for installing the KDE Plasma 5 repo on Leap 42.1? That is, I assume that I first add the Frameworks5 KDE repo at:

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Frameworks5/openSUSE_Leap_42.1/

And, from your prior post, I assume that I should also add the Qt5 repo at:

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openSUSE_Leap_42.1/

Then, do I switch repos to both the Frameworks5 and Qt5 repos or only the Frameworks5 repo? Also, any other advice?

Thanks,

Gordon

you’d need to do a dup (switch) with both repo’s, post your repo list

zypper lr -d

just switched to plasma 5.6 and Qt 5.6, LXQt is broken, there wore only 2 incomparable packages lxqt-qtplugin and lxqt-powermanagement I removed both of them but LXQt won’t start.
LXQt users wait for a new build before switching to Qt5.6
on a plus side vlc works fine and I didn’t have any issues with plasma 5.6

Hi I_A,

I have already added the Frameworks5 and Qt5 repos, however, I have not yet enabled them. So, they are here but disabled:

#  | Alias                            | Name                             | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                                            | Service
---+----------------------------------+----------------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+----------+--------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
 1 | GLD - Bumblebee                  | GLD - Bumblebee                  | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/Bumblebee/openSUSE_Leap_42.1/   |        
 2 | GLD_-_Packman_multimedia         | GLD - Packman multimedia         | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/packman/suse/openSUSE_Leap_42.1/                  |        
 3 | GLD_-_Plasma_5                   | GLD - Plasma 5                   | No      | ----      | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Frameworks5/openSUSE_Leap_42.1/ |        
 4 | GLD_-_Printing                   | GLD - Printing                   | No      | ----      | No      |   98     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Printing/openSUSE_Leap_42.1/         |        
 5 | GLD_-_Qt5                        | GLD - Qt5                        | No      | ----      | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openSUSE_Leap_42.1/         |        
 6 | GLD_-_Ubuntu_fonts_by_gldickens3 | GLD - Ubuntu fonts by gldickens3 | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/gldickens3/openSUSE_42.1/      |        
 7 | GLD_-_libdvdcss_1                | GLD - libdvdcss                  | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/openSUSE_Leap_42.1/                             |        
 8 | GLD_-_nVidia                     | GLD - nVidia                     | No      | ----      | No      |   99     | rpm-md | ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/42.1/                                       |        
 9 | download.opensuse.org-non-oss    | Main Repository (NON-OSS)        | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.1/repo/non-oss/              |        
10 | download.opensuse.org-non-oss_1  | Update Repository (Non-Oss)      | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.1/non-oss/                         |        
11 | download.opensuse.org-oss        | Main Repository (OSS)            | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.1/repo/oss/                  |        
12 | download.opensuse.org-oss_1      | Main Update Repository           | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.1/oss/                             |    

Thanks for your advice,

Gordon

your kde:/plasma5 and kde:/qt5 repo’s are disabled and you have autorefresh off on them, first enable those repo’s, enable auto refresh
try this

sudo zypper mr -e -r 3
sudo zypper mr -e -r 5

then do a full vendor change to plasma 5.6 and Qt5.6

sudo zypper dup --from 3 --from 5 --from 2

#2 is needed as not to break packman when doing a full vendor change

Even though there appear to be a lot of crashes from 5.5.x in LEAP (a lot of people experiencing them) and KDE seems to have put the bug fixes into 5.6?

Hi I_A,

Thanks for the instructions which I used to upgrade my installation to Plasma 5.6. After the upgrade, everything seemed to be working properly except my two panels. That is, the entire bottom panel was blank and which had previously included the Application menu, Show Desktop Icon, Pager and System Tray. I found that if I removed the panel and re-added it without the Show Desktop Icon then it was properly displayed. My other panel, which was on the top of the screen, also had a problem. That is, it was a partial length auto-hidden panel but the panel width markers would not appear when resizing the panel which made it just about impossible to re-size the panel. In any event, because of these problems, I reverted my installation to its previous Plasma 5.5 config. I have no idea if these problems were specific to my installation or not, however, I continue to be underwhelmed by the number of bugs that I have encountered with all of the versions of Plasma 5 that I have used. FWIW, in my brief experience and for the benefit of others, Plasma 5.5 appears to be a bit more stable than Plasma 5.6 so I’m gonna stick with Plasma 5.5 for now.

Again, thanks for your help!

Gordon

Thank you Gordon for posting your experiences with Plasma 5.6. I was considering testing Plasma 5.6, and now I feel I should pass on that for now. I appreciate you saving me the effort and frustration.

The plasma 5.6 upgrade is more than worth it just to start running Qt 5.6 which addressees a lot of performance and glitch bugs. All that behaviour mentioned is already addressed and should be implemented in 5.6.1 (if you don’t want to do it yourself manually).

And what specific “a lot of” crashes do you mean that are in 5.5 and KDE have fixed in 5.6?
I am not aware of any, 5.5 ran stable here anyway.

And it doesn’t make sense to release 5.6.0 as update anyway, as 5.6.1 is going to be released next Tuesday.
(that doesn’t mean that 5.6.1 will be released as official update though, see the previous posts)

Maybe you are rather talking about Qt 5.6? 5.5 had some problems with dynamically adding/removing monitors or using multiple monitors on some systems.

The “Show Desktop” plasmoid breaks the panel layout at the moment.
See here for a workaround/fix:
https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/514471-Software-Update-looking-for-Qt-5-6?p=2771551#post2771551

That sounds great! Please tell me how to implement bug fixes for the panel misbehavior that I mentioned. That is. the two bugs that I found were:

  1. The panel resize markers have disappeared.
  2. If the Show Desktop Icon is present, then the panel is blank.

If its a straight forward solution then I would like to try it again. So, please let me know how to fix these bugs.

Thanks,

Gordon

Thanks a bunch wolfi323! I just saw your post immediately after I made my last post.

Do you also have a fix for the panel re-size markers having disappeared too?

Thanks again,

Gordon