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    axlmayhem NNTP User

    Default newbie with questions


    Hey all. I just switched over from Ubuntu and would like to know if
    anyone could direct me to a tutorial that explains basic terminal
    commands and whatnot.

    Thanks.


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    ken yap NNTP User

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    Here's a good tutorial for Linux in general, doesn't matter what
    distro.

    http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz


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    smpoole7 NNTP User

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    Believe it or not, good 'ol Wikipedia has a lot of info on common Unix
    commands.

    'List of Unix utilities - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia'
    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unix_utilities)

    I'm assuming that you're using KDE? If so, you can start a Konsole with
    System -> Terminal -> Konsole in the K menu. That's a great place to
    start and you can try the commands at the wikipedia link to see what
    they do. On any of these commands, you can also enter "man
    [command_name]" in that terminal to get a manual page. Enter "q" to quit
    the manual page when you're done reading.

    You can also open the KDE Help Center from the K-Menu and look under
    "Administration," then select "man pages." You can keep that window open
    while your Konsole is opened and switch between them.

    The commands you might be most interested in, as a new user of the
    command line interface (CLI), are:

    ls - "list files" -- displays the files in a directory

    cd - "change directory" -- allows you to move between directories

    For example, when you first start a Konsole or terminal, you'll be in
    your home directory. An "ls" on a typical Opensuse system will show
    something like


    Code:
    --------------------

    Desktop Documents [perhaps other directories ...]

    --------------------


    You could then switch into "Documents" with


    Code:
    --------------------

    cd Documents

    --------------------


    Do another "ls," and you'll see any files that are in that directory.
    To get back out of Documents to your home directory, enter "cd .." (a
    space, then two periods after the "cd").

    That'll get you started. I'm sure others here will suggest other
    guides. Welcome to Opensuse!


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    axlmayhem NNTP User

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    Thanks for the help. Specifically, I am trying to install macchanger. I
    have downloaded the rpm but it won't install because of some missing
    dependencies. How do I download said dependencies?


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    axlmayhem NNTP User

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    Actually, ignore the above post. If I dont figure it out on my own, I'll
    never learn. Thanks!


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    Prexy NNTP User

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    Out of respect for your desire to be self sufficient, I won't answer.
    But, I will hint.

    -yast

    webpin-

    But, that's it! Now, you're on your own.


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    ken yap NNTP User

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    Generally, installing a RPM intended for another distro will not work
    and give rise to broken dependencies. If you want a particular package,
    do in this order:

    1. See if it's already in the standard repos. This may sound obvious,
    but I see people trying to install MySQL, Java, Apache, PHP, etc from
    the vendor site, when they are already supplied by OpenSUSE. Only if you
    can't find it there, or there is a reason you can't use the
    out-of-the-box version should you go on to the next steps.

    2. See if it's in one of the major community repos like Packman.

    3. See if someone has packaged it at 'Software.openSUSE.org'
    (http://software.opensuse.org/search).

    4. See if the vendor has a generic version, usually a .tar.gz or a
    .bin.

    5. If there's an older version, and you are comfortable with rpmbuild
    and can modify the spec file to use the up-to-date source, you could
    build a new RPM. You could then be a contributor to
    software.opensuse.org via the OpenSUSE Build System (OBS), help other
    OpenSUSE users, be world-famous and enjoy the adulation of millions of
    fans. Ok, maybe not the last two benefits.

    6. Even if there isn't an older version, you could learn how to write
    spec files, and proceed as in number 5. Still no pop-star benefits
    though.

    7. Build from source.

    Maybe I missed one or two other possibilities, I'm sure others will
    pipe in.


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    smpoole7 NNTP User

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    ken_yap;1943723 Wrote:
    > Here's a good tutorial for Linux in general, doesn't matter what
    > distro.
    >
    > http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz


    HAH! Good ol' Rute! I used that thing years ago; I didn't know it was
    still around!


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    oldcpu NNTP User

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    smpoole7;1943769 Wrote:
    > HAH! Good ol' Rute! I used that thing years ago; I didn't know it was
    > still around!


    I also forgot about that (having seen it a long time ago).

    I'm thinking now that I should add that as a link to the new users
    installation guide.


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    smpoole7 NNTP User

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    oldcpu;1943787 Wrote:
    > I also forgot about that (having seen it a long time ago).
    >
    > I'm thinking now that I should add that as a link to the new users
    > installation guide.


    It used to be at the Linux Documentation Project. I don't see it there
    anymore. I guess it's getting old now. But I still think it's useful.


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