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Thread: I really need a lot of help [Starting with installing wine]

  1. #1
    Connaver NNTP User

    Default I really need a lot of help [Starting with installing wine]


    I have just downloaded and installed opensuse 11.1. I thought I could
    manage to learn the fundamentals of linux by myself, or at least get a
    little right.

    After 5 hours of accomplishing absolutely nothing I thought I would try
    and get some help from opensuse.org.

    If there is anyone who has a little patience and is willing to explain
    some fundamentals to me I would really appreciate it.

    The first thing I would to learn is how to install Wine. I downloaded
    the newest version but I think I downloaded the windows installer
    version. I think I managed 9using yast) to find a online version to
    install, but with the bandwidth being so expensive in this country I
    would really like to find out if I can install it from the version I
    downloaded.

    I apologise if this is the wrong section to post this in and appreciate
    any help offered.


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  2. #2
    acez NNTP User

    Default Re: I really need a lot of help [Starting with installing wine]


    Connaver;1941883 Wrote:
    > I have just downloaded and installed opensuse 11.1. I thought I could
    > manage to learn the fundamentals of linux by myself, or at least get a
    > little right.
    >

    Dear Connaver, wine is not the best first step to take to "...learn the
    fundamentals of linux..."!!!
    Quit the GUI, go to command line with a good book about bash wide open
    on the table!

    Won't you learn linux starting with windows applications ... or no?

    Good luck!


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    swerdna NNTP User

    Default Re: I really need a lot of help [Starting with installing wine]


    There's a wine tutorial for openSUSE here:
    'Geoff's Linux tips - wine'
    (http://gdr.homelinux.com/suse-tips/wine-apps.php)

    To install the contemporary RPMs, add the 'repository he mentions'
    (http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_Ya...ositories#Wine) and
    you should have the near-latest with the added advantage that it has
    been tested and integrated into openSUSE.


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    Yosuf Mossad Mohammed Vitriolus NNTP User

    Default Re: I really need a lot of help [Starting with installing wine]

    I used Linux for three years before I felt the need to install WINE.

    what exactly is it that you feel you need WINE for?

    there is very real little reason to immediately try to run
    Windows[tm] programs under Linux.

    There are all sorts of programs to replace those. Have a look at
    http://www.osalt.com/ and
    http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html

    if this posting is not helpful, don't get mad...i'd give you some
    fundamentals but i don't know where to start. That is, are you coming
    from Ubuntu or Win95. Are you familiar with using a command line in
    OS/2 or Vista? Have you yet read any of the online information
    available at openSUSE.org?

    like:

    basic reading list:

    If new to Linux please read this:
    http://forums.opensuse.org/looking-s...new-linux.html
    http://forums.opensuse.org/looking-s...ml#post1835888
    above includes links to these--READ THEM

    Before you install SuSE 11.0 read this. If you already installed and
    it all went sour, read it BEFORE you reinstall:

    http://forums.opensuse.org/install-b...ease-read.html


    Ready to use Multimedia? Read:

    http://forums.opensuse.org/applicati...-sub-area.html


    When you get frustrated, and BEFORE you give up and go back, read
    "Linux is Not Windows":
    http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm


    Partitioning/Install Guide
    http://forums.opensuse.org/how-faq/3...all-guide.html


    HowTo Boot / Multiboot openSUSE and Windows (2000, XP, Vista - any
    mix) using the GRUB bootloader
    http://www.swerdna.net.au/linhowtoboot.html
    http://tinyurl.com/5eqy8k

    When you have learned all you think you need to know read "LINUX:
    Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition"
    http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
    http://tinyurl.com/r6j4w

    How to install and boot 145 operating systems in a PC
    http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147959
    http://tinyurl.com/36c9f5

    Fixing vista multiboot with openSUSE - openSUSE Forums
    http://forums.opensuse.org/install-b...-opensuse.html
    http://tinyurl.com/57zlz7

  5. #5
    Connaver NNTP User

    Default Re: I really need a lot of help [Starting with installing wine]


    WOW.

    First of all I thought no one had replied. And then I couldn't find the
    post (I've just taken a more in depth look at the search function)

    Thank you for your replies, let me see if I can answer all questions.

    First of all, a brief explaination as to how I got to this point:

    I have played around with Fedora previously, but not on any serious
    scale. I run an IT business and want to offer my clients alternatives to
    expensive microsoft operating systems. When I heard from a friend that
    Suse could run windows apps I thought it was worth a look at. When I
    started looking I saw openSuse had a 64-bit version (that really got my
    attention).

    My thoughts at the time were: "If there is an OS that can run windows
    apps with no problem and has an easy GUI that is not difficult to become
    familiar with then I might just work." Unfortunately people who have
    worked on MS Office and have other Windows based software do not want to
    change from MS Windows. So an alternative would have to fulfil the
    requirements (i.e. easy to familiarize themselves with and can run at
    least office.)

    But, in order to offer this choice to my clients I would have to learn
    how to use (and fix) Linux myself.

    Then I install openSuse 11.1 on my pc, (which I thought came with wine
    already installed) and started playing around. The first two days I got
    nothing right. Eventually I found out I could download and install wine
    with Yast, but I wanted to install the version I already downloaded
    before installed openSuse. After many hours of battling and fighting I
    eventually gave in and installed with Yast.

    As a side note after a further 3 days and much searching on the net I
    finally got the installer for my motherboard drivers to start up. I felt
    like throwing a party. Unfortunately something about the kernel did not
    allow me to install the drivers, but it was a start.

    I cam accross the term -bash- but did not that that point start reading
    up into it. At this point, one week later I now have a rough idea of how
    much I must actually learn. It does not help that I still have a Windows
    mentality.

    As a last note on that very long exaplaination as to how I got here: I
    have been in the IT business for over 5 years and know how to fix
    computers (hardware) and sort out software issues on Windows XP and
    Vista.


    To aces:

    Thank you for reply. I'll get my hands on some media about bash
    commands

    To swerdna:

    Thank you for the links to the wine help pages and the wine
    repositories. It might actually help if I can get into the wine
    configuration menu (I looked everywhere for it but could not find it)
    Now I can.

    To Yosuf Mossad Mohammed Vitriolus:

    Thank you very much for all the links. Your effort is appreciated. To
    be honest I have been very busy these past few months (with the economy
    hurting business badly) I have not had the time to sit for a fe hours
    and look through the forums. The little time I was able to sit and look
    I did not find posts to help me.



    Now I have a basic starting point to work from. I start reading
    everything you guys linked to and then hopefully I'll be able to sort
    out the problems I currently have.

    But there is one question I'll ask right now. Through a miss click I
    have lost the section on my start bar that shows which windows I have
    open at the moment. So the only way I can see or navigate through my
    windows is though alt+tab. I have tried every single widget I can by
    right clicking on the start bar and adding widgets but that didn't work.
    Does anyone know how I can put that section back?

    Thanks again for all your help. Hopefully I'll be able to get to a
    point to be a real contributer one day.


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  6. #6
    acez NNTP User

    Default Re: I really need a lot of help [Starting with installing wine]


    Connaver;1944278 Wrote:
    >
    > But there is one question I'll ask right now. Through a miss click I
    > have lost the section on my start bar that shows which windows I have
    > open at the moment. So the only way I can see or navigate through my
    > windows is though alt+tab. I have tried every single widget I can by
    > right clicking on the start bar and adding widgets but that didn't work.
    > Does anyone know how I can put that section back?
    >


    Quick and dirty and if not working, you can roll back.

    Rename ~/.kde4 (home directory of the user who has the problem),
    close/restart xwindow session. Recreation of that hidden directory
    should be automatic and should fix the problem (maybe...)

    Bye, bye.


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  7. #7
    Connaver NNTP User

    Default Re: I really need a lot of help [Starting with installing wine]


    Aces

    I did a bit of snooping and found my way to the KDE irc channel.
    Speaking to someone there was a lot of help and I got everything to work
    and look right. It was just a widget "Task Manager". I was there before
    and thought I had tried all the widgets but I must have missed that
    one.

    But thanks for that suggestion. If I manage to completely mess up the
    task bar again I'll give that a try, And I probably will since I'm
    experimenting with everything , soehow I have already downgraded
    myself from KDE4 to KDE3.5 I think.

    Perhaps you can answer another question for me, might save me from
    hours of searching.

    I have another hard drive full of files that I want to access. It was a
    second hard drive when I still had windows XP. openSuse picks it up but
    does not want to allow me access to it.

    This is the message it returns when I try to access the drive through
    the dolphin application. Clicking on the partition name in "My Computer"
    does not do anything.

    "An error occured while accessing "Personal", the system responded:
    org.freedesktop.Hal.Desktop.permissionDeniedByPolicy:
    org.freedesktop.hal.storage.mount-fixed Auth_admin_fixed_always <--
    (action,result)"


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