opensuse 11.1 on laptops + hard lock

[slacker9]

here is the link
http://tinyurl.com/bwarr9

here is the list of outputs

funny thing is alsa version installed is 1.0.18 but in alsa-info.sh
shows 1.0.17
------ cut from alsa-info output
!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version: 1.0.17
Library version: 1.0.18
Utilities version: 1.0.18


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Code:
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tux:~ # rpm -qa |grep alsa
alsa-plugins-pulse-1.0.18-6.12
alsa-1.0.18-8.7
alsa-utils-1.0.18-6.4
alsa-tools-1.0.18-1.13
alsa-oss-1.0.17-1.37
alsa-plugins-1.0.18-6.12
alsa-devel-1.0.18-8.7
alsa-firmware-1.0.17-1.42
tux:~ # rpm -qa |grep pulse
pulseaudio-module-lirc-0.9.12-9.6
pulseaudio-esound-compat-0.9.12-9.6
alsa-plugins-pulse-1.0.18-6.12
libpulse0-0.9.12-9.6
pulseaudio-module-gconf-0.9.12-9.6
libpulsecore4-0.9.12-9.6
libpulse-mainloop-glib0-0.9.12-9.6
pulseaudio-module-x11-0.9.12-9.6
pulseaudio-utils-0.9.12-9.6
pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-0.9.12-9.6
pulseaudio-module-zeroconf-0.9.12-9.6
libpulse-browse0-0.9.12-9.6
pulseaudio-0.9.12-9.6
libxine1-pulse-1.1.16.1-0.pm.0
tux:~ # rpm -q libasound2
libasound2-1.0.18-8.7

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[oldcpu]

slacker9;1942176 Wrote:
> here is the link
> http://tinyurl.com/bwarr9
OK, so your laptop has an ALC883. My view is there are three things you
can try:
- first - check your mixer carefully
- second - update alsa
- third - try a model option Its possible the second and third can be interchanged.

Reference your mixer, I note this:
!!Amixer output
!!-------------

!!-------Mixer controls for card 0 [SB]

Card hw:0 'SB'/'HDA ATI SB at 0xd0000000 irq 16'
Mixer name : 'Realtek ALC883'
Simple mixer control 'Front',0
Front Left: Playback 17 [*55%*] [-21.00dB] [on]
Front Right: Playback 17 [*55%*] [-21.00dB] [on]I assume you
have it ON for a reason? Is 55% the optimal level for that, given your
volume unhappiness?

Reference updating alsa, I noted this when searching ALC883 on the alsa
site: 'Search results - AlsaProject' (http://tinyurl.com/amunkb) and
'Search results - AlsaProject' (http://tinyurl.com/6x2krl) so there are
some updates since 1.0.17/1.0.18 of alsa.

So if you wish to try updating alsa to see if it will help, then I have
provided 6 zypper commands below. Note once you go down this path, every
time there is a kernel update, it will possibly break your sound, and
you will have to do this update again. Anyway, to update, open a
konsole or a terminal and type "su" (no quotes - enter root password
when prompted ) to get root permissions and with your pc connected to
the internet copy and paste the following six commands in sequence,
executing them one by one:

Code:
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zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...openSUSE_11.1/ multimedia
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Code:
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zypper install alsa alsa-utils alsa-plugins-pulse alsa-plugins alsa-oss alsa-tools alsa-firmware libasound2
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Code:
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zypper rr multimedia
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Code:
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zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...openSUSE_11.1/ multimedia
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Code:
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zypper install alsa-driver-kmp-pae
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Code:
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zypper rr multimedia
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and then restart your PC and test your sound volume. Don't forget to
check your mixer.

If that does not work by itself, then you can try the model options
again in your /etc/modprobe.d/sound file, one at a time (restarting your
alsa sound driver and mixer after each attempt), where this is the list
from the HD-Audio-Models.txt file from 1.0.19 of alsa:

Code:
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ALC883/888
==========
3stack-dig 3-jack with SPDIF I/O
6stack-dig 6-jack digital with SPDIF I/O
3stack-6ch 3-jack 6-channel
3stack-6ch-dig 3-jack 6-channel with SPDIF I/O
6stack-dig-demo 6-jack digital for Intel demo board
acer Acer laptops (Travelmate 3012WTMi, Aspire 5600, etc)
acer-aspire Acer Aspire 9810
acer-aspire-4930g Acer Aspire 4930G
medion Medion Laptops
medion-md2 Medion MD2
targa-dig Targa/MSI
targa-2ch-dig Targs/MSI with 2-channel
laptop-eapd 3-jack with SPDIF I/O and EAPD (Clevo M540JE, M550JE)
lenovo-101e Lenovo 101E
lenovo-nb0763 Lenovo NB0763
lenovo-ms7195-dig Lenovo MS7195
lenovo-sky Lenovo Sky
haier-w66 Haier W66
3stack-hp HP machines with 3stack (Lucknow, Samba boards)
6stack-dell Dell machines with 6stack (Inspiron 530)
mitac Mitac 8252D
clevo-m720 Clevo M720 laptop series
fujitsu-pi2515 Fujitsu AMILO Pi2515
fujitsu-xa3530 Fujitsu AMILO XA3530
3stack-6ch-intel Intel DG33* boards
auto auto-config reading BIOS (default)
--------------------
An example of the syntax for one option (such as "acer") syntax:

Code:
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options snd slots=snd-hda-intel
options snd slots=snd-hda-intel model=acer
# 5Dex.1Jsy0kqpWC4:IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
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The command for restarting alsa is : ::*su -c 'rcalsasound
restart'*::


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[slacker9]

internet is deadly slow here. it took even 20 min to laod this page..

there is some misconfiguration in my settings. i wil fix it.

anyway i am going to update alsa, as you said.
so please be patient, tomoro i can give you the results

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[slacker9]

dear oldcpu,
i forgot to tell you that the sound in sony vaio laptop, is fixed via
adding "model=sony-assamd" option and is of good quality.
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[slacker9]

dear oldcpu,
finaly my sound worked, without any additional difficulty
here are the ouputs, now i can hear something still it is not enough.
please go through the outputs and give new suggestions.

if i increase the surround volume it gives long big beep

alsa-info output
http://tinyurl.com/bph3n5

tsalsa output
'tsalsa.txt - nopaste.com (beta)' (http://nopaste.com/p/azep1rKYhb)

i tried various model options all of them cause errors.
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if i add any model option it will not work
Code:
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tux:~ # rcalsasound start
Starting sound driver: hda-intelWARNING: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.27.7-9-pae/updates/alsa/acore/snd.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/2.6.27.7-9-pae/updates/alsa/acore/snd-timer.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
WARNING: Error inserting snd_pcm (/lib/modules/2.6.27.7-9-pae/updates/alsa/acore/snd-pcm.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
WARNING: Error inserting snd_hwdep (/lib/modules/2.6.27.7-9-pae/updates/alsa/acore/snd-hwdep.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
WARNING: Error inserting snd_hda_codec (/lib/modules/2.6.27.7-9-pae/updates/alsa/pci/hda/snd-hda-codec.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.27.7-9-pae/updates/alsa/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
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[oldcpu]

slacker9;1942316 Wrote:
> dear oldcpu,
> i forgot to tell you that the sound in sony vaio laptop, is fixed via
> adding "model=sony-assamd" option and sound is of good quality.
> regards

sony-assamd is associated with the ALC262 and not the ALC883. Here is
a summary list of the ALC262 options:

Code:
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ALC262
======
fujitsu Fujitsu Laptop
hp-bpc HP xw4400/6400/8400/9400 laptops
hp-bpc-d7000 HP BPC D7000
hp-tc-t5735 HP Thin Client T5735
hp-rp5700 HP RP5700
benq Benq ED8
benq-t31 Benq T31
hippo Hippo (ATI) with jack detection, Sony UX-90s
hippo_1 Hippo (Benq) with jack detection
sony-assamd Sony ASSAMD
toshiba-s06 Toshiba S06
toshiba-rx1 Toshiba RX1
ultra Samsung Q1 Ultra Vista model
lenovo-3000 Lenovo 3000 y410
nec NEC Versa S9100
basic fixed pin assignment w/o SPDIF
auto auto-config reading BIOS (default)
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But when you ran the script again, it still indicates your PC has an
ALC883, and hence typically one would expect a model option from the
ALC883 (and not the ALC262) list would apply.


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slacker9;1942794 Wrote:
> if i add any model option it will not work>
Code:
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> > tux:~ # rcalsasound start
> Starting sound driver: hda-intelWARNING: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.27.7-9-pae/updates/alsa/acore/snd.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
> WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/2.6.27.7-9-pae/updates/alsa/acore/snd-timer.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
> WARNING: Error inserting snd_pcm (/lib/modules/2.6.27.7-9-pae/updates/alsa/acore/snd-pcm.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
> WARNING: Error inserting snd_hwdep (/lib/modules/2.6.27.7-9-pae/updates/alsa/acore/snd-hwdep.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
> WARNING: Error inserting snd_hda_codec (/lib/modules/2.6.27.7-9-pae/updates/alsa/pci/hda/snd-hda-codec.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
> FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.27.7-9-pae/updates/alsa/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
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> >

Note, you should only add one model option at a time. Only ONE.


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slacker9;1942721 Wrote:
> *finaly my sound worked, without any additional difficulty* here are the
> ouputs, now i can hear something still it is not enough. please go
> through the outputs and give new suggestions.
>
> if i increase the surround volume it gives long big beep
>
> alsa-info output
> http://tinyurl.com/bph3n5
>
> tsalsa output
> 'tsalsa.txt - nopaste.com (beta)' (http://nopaste.com/p/azep1rKYhb)

Can you provide a verbal description, as how your sound works, and what
sort of sound you get?


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[growbag]

Erm, I might be way off track here, but I noticed earlier up the post
tree that you using the pae kernel.

Seeing as you only have 1 gig of RAM:

1. Is that possibly causing the problems?
2. Why use the pae kernel anyway? Have you tried a default install?
3. Seeing as you are having problems on 2 separate machines, maybe run
am md5 checksum on the install media. The downloaded image might be a
problem, or the disk itself.


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