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  1. #1
    johnsood NNTP User

    Default Yast2 tries to install unwanted packages


    I am new to openSuse though familiar with other distros. Installed
    11.1-KDE from CD.

    When I try to install something from yast, it lists a hell lot of other
    things which it wants to install alongwith which are not related to the
    stuff I wanted. That list contains Openoffice-template-presentations,
    help, thesaurus etc which I never asked to install.

    Now, when I install the same from CLI (with zypper), it installs clean.
    Nothing extra.

    For any package, Yast2 wants to install those files. But everything
    works great from zypper.

    I tried the dependency check from the yast2 menu, it says everything is
    perfect. Still it wants to install those.

    Any idea?


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    smpoole7 NNTP User

    Default Re: Yast2 tries to install unwanted packages


    Zypper installs the same dependencies, it just doesn't show them to you.
    It *looks* cleaner. The dependencies are specified in the RPM itself.

    There's a good discussion of it in this thread.

    http://tinyurl.com/6kk49g


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  3. #3
    johnsood NNTP User

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    Thanks smpoole7 for you reply. Read that tread.

    But I think this is not the case. For example, I tried to install
    'yakuake' from yast, it tell me to install those extra baggages. They
    call it autoinstall. But, from zypper, it just installed that package,
    nothing else. This thing happens with some other packages I want to
    install. From CLI they got installed though. Yast always throws the same
    list. Since I have a expensive internet connection, I didn't say yes.


    Another thing is, even if I just open Yast2 and hit 'Accept' (without
    doing any changes), then also it shows the same list.


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    smpoole7 NNTP User

    Default Re: Yast2 tries to install unwanted packages


    Then I obviously don't understand all I know about Yast's software
    installer!

    Someone else needs to pipe up. The way I learned it, dependencies are
    specified in the RPM. Unless ... what options are you giving to zypper
    at the command line?


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    johnsood NNTP User

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    smpoole7;1935548 Wrote:
    > Then I obviously don't understand all I know about Yast's software
    > installer!

    I am a bit lost here too.


    smpoole7;1935548 Wrote:
    > Someone else needs to pipe up. The way I learned it, dependencies are
    > specified in the RPM. Unless ...

    Even i knew the same. If both zypper and yast told me that I need to
    install X Y Z packages to resolve dependencies, I would have felt
    better. Also, when I ask yast to check dependencies (from the menu), it
    tells me everything alright!

    smpoole7;1935548 Wrote:
    > what options are you giving to zypper at the command line?

    Nothing extra. zypper install yakuake ... like that.


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    gsk 308 NNTP User

    Default Re: Yast2 tries to install unwanted packages


    well going through the topic i found something similar.i usually use
    xfce.but i liked the gwenviewer of kde4.so i installed it from yast2.i
    thought may be it will require kde runtime envi files and lib files.it
    gave me a huge list as dependencies.when i checked the list i was a bit
    confused to find google gadgets for kde4,gstreamer and a hell lot of
    extras which i did not want.but i did not give it a second thought and i
    did not try it with zypper though.after the instalation i had a full
    kde4 installation.looks like i will use only zypper from now on.....


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    Usleble NNTP User

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    I think all these packages are forced for install by YaST, because you
    installed the system from the LiveCD. They are standard for the system,
    and automatically installed from the DVD. But because there is not
    enough space for them on the LiveCD, YaST is trying to obtain them
    online.

    So, no matter what are you trying to install, the first time you run
    YaST, it will suggest them automatically.


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    johnsood NNTP User

    Default Re: Yast2 tries to install unwanted packages


    Thanks Usleble for your reply.

    Yes, that seems to be the case. I was suspecting that since I've
    installed from live CD, there are some pending items in the queue. But
    then I think zypper should have told me the same thing. Anyway... not
    liking the package management though I think zypper is an excellent
    tool.


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  9. #9
    johnsood NNTP User

    Default Re: Yast2 tries to install unwanted packages


    Yes, that's what. I never knew a thesaurus or presentation templates
    for openoffice is that important for a system :-). yast force me to
    install those.


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