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  1. #1
    Ninja1980 NNTP User

    Default KDE 4.2?


    With KDE 4.2 being released tomorrow, I think I may upgrade KDE,
    currently I am running 4.0.4 that came with the Suse 11 release. I have
    never upgraded KDE alone so I have a few questions.

    Will I lose all customization that I have done?
    Will it effect any of my files? Configurations eg. fstab (I don't think
    it will, but just to be safe )
    How exactly is the upgrade done? Is it difficult?
    Can it be performed via YaST?

    I have a pretty good knowledge of Linux from school but only recently
    became a 100% home user of Linux.

    Thanks guys!


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  2. #2
    rs3york NNTP User

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    Your core system settings will be untouched - fstab, sysctl.conf,
    xorg.conf, etc. etc.

    Your customizations -should- stay in place.

    For example, I reinstalled openSUSE 11.1 x64 early this morning. I had
    KDE4.2 RC before the reinstall with my plasma desktop all customized to
    my liking. After reinstall was left with the standard KDE 4.1.3+, most
    of my customizations were there but some plasmoids were missing since
    they are in 4.2. After upgrading back to 4.2 RC1 plasma would load then
    crash right away. I had to delete the plasma config files in my home
    directory to stop the crashing...and naturally I had to re-customize my
    desktop.

    However the big stuff, my e-mail in Kmail, RSS feeds in Akregator,
    Notes, Pics, Media, bookmarks/history in Konq, FF & Opera...all that
    stuff is still here working perfectly fine.

    But as a matter of pure prudence (and for your own piece of mind) why
    not back-up your personal data? You should be doing that anyway.


    As for the actual upgrade you can do it via YaST. You'll need to add
    the following repos then update:

    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...openSUSE_11.0/
    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...openSUSE_11.0/
    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...openSUSE_11.0/
    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...ctory_Desktop/


    The first two you'll need for the KDE 4.2 desktop. The last two are
    not needed but helpful - you'll find stuff like KOffice 2, extra
    plasmoids (plasma widgets), and extra KDE 4 related apps.


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  3. #3
    rs3york NNTP User

    Default Re: KDE 4.2?


    You can also update via the command line


    Code:
    --------------------

    su
    [your administrator password]

    zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...openSUSE_11.0/ KDE4-Desktop
    zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...openSUSE_11.0/ KDE4-Qt
    zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...openSUSE_11.0/ KDE4-Extras
    zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...ctory_Desktop/ KDE4-Community

    zypper ref
    zypper up
    --------------------


    You'll have to answer questions about trusting GPG keys and you may
    have to resolve some conflicts depending on what KDE4 packages you've
    already installed. I've never done the move from 4.0.4 to 4.2 so I
    can't tell which ones to look out for.

    Good luck!


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  4. #4
    caf4926 NNTP User

    Default Re: KDE 4.2?


    Upgrade to 4.2 will not change fstab

    4.2 is light years ahead of 4.0.4

    Currently 4.2 RC1 is available from Factory.
    _http://tinyurl.com/5mxwaf_

    community:
    _http://tinyurl.com/65tbsr_

    you may also need QT:
    _http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt44/openSUSE_11.0/_

    I'm not entirely sure if and where they will move the packages too
    after it is released proper.

    If you are not familiar with using the Build Service repo's you might
    be better waiting and day or two
    ============================

    To upgrade simply add the repo to your list
    Open Yast - Software Management
    filter by repo and select the new kde4 repo
    from the packages tab along the top of screen, select update all in
    this list unconditionally.

    There are some complications with dependencies. But we can help if you
    can't work through it.
    ================================

    It is of course possible to add the stable repo 4.1.3 now and enjoy
    some benefits
    _http://tinyurl.com/3ttxs3_

    extra features from community here
    'http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.0_KDE4_STABLE_Desktop/
    ' (http://tinyurl.com/9xfv63)


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  5. #5
    rs3york NNTP User

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    One more thing!

    Be mindful that those repos will not have auto-refresh enabled. To
    enable auto-refresh you'll have to either enable it in the "Software
    Repositories" module of YaST or use the command line.

    Code:
    --------------------

    su
    [your administrator password]

    zypper mr -r KDE4-Desktop
    zypper mr -r KDE4-Qt
    zypper mr -r KDE4-Extras
    zypper mr -r KDE4-Community

    --------------------


    If you don't enable auto-refresh you'll have to manually refresh those
    4 repositories to catch any updates to KDE 4.2 that come down the pipe
    later.


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  6. #6
    ram88 NNTP User

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    If YaST shows some dependency problems - example it wants to remove
    something - just leave him to remove. A lot of stand-alone packages
    since 4.0 are moved either to kdebase or to other organized packages.
    The successful migration with your Desktop settings is nearly
    impossible. If you are used KMail, Akregator, Kopete, etc. on 4.0 you
    probably need to set up again these accounts and configurations. Do not
    try to hack configuration files, and copy the old ones to the new KDE
    applications. They'll be simply ignored. BTW, do not worry about this -
    setting up again your KMail, Kopete, etc. accounts takes about 10
    minutes.


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  7. #7
    Ninja1980 NNTP User

    Default Re: KDE 4.2?


    Ok, so what i've got is add these four repositories to Yast. But then
    what? Do I just do a serach for any packages that contain "KDE" and
    update them?


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  8. #8
    caf4926 NNTP User

    Default Re: KDE 4.2?


    Yast - Software Management
    filter by repo
    visit each in turn, start with 4.2 Desktop repo and select update all
    in this list if newer ver avail from the packages tab along the top of
    the screen.

    Do this with all your new repo's

    then accept/apply

    I just did it on my Laptop - now officially 4.2


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  9. #9
    rschaffter NNTP User

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    In YaST Software Management select 'Repositories', and at the top of the
    list select '@System' On the package list, click on the 'Installed
    Version' bar, and then scroll down until you get to the blue ones, and
    click away.

    Cheers,

    Rod


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  10. #10
    michaelhust NNTP User

    Default Re: KDE 4.2?


    Hi,

    I added the four repositories to YAST and wanted to upgrade from KDE
    4.1.3 to 4.2 (Opensuse 11.1).

    I have following problem with dependencies:

    It is suggest to downgrade some applications (e.g. Koffice,
    PolicyKit...) no problem

    It is suggest to deinstall following applications:
    kde4-plasmoid-weather and kde4-plasmoid-quicklauncher

    I'am a little bit confused about deleting kde4-plasmoid-quicklauncher,
    this program sounds important.

    Up to now, I did nothing (means I did't upgrade).

    Did somebody delete these files?

    Greetings

    Michael


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