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    As a Linux developer I'm loathe to use Windows, but as a musician I've finally decided to give in. I have various devices that have special non file type USB drivers for Windows as well as music production software now. I tried VirtualBox which was easy to set up but the USB functionality is not 100%. So I thought I'd try vmware server. I read opensuse howtos and Install VMware server 2 in Suse / openSUSE 11 & USB support. I've done everything carefully. I downloaded the latest RPM from vmware and followed the install which completes only failing to build vsock which it says is not critical. Starting with /etc/init.d/vmware start gives me this.
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    Starting VMware services:                       
       Virtual machine monitor                                            failed
       Virtual machine communication interface                             done 
       Virtual ethernet                                                   failed
       Bridged networking on /dev/vmnet0                                   done
    That is disturbing by maybe those failures are due to not being set up. Using Firefox as advised and myself as the user it continually rejects me. Isn't there a way to circumvent this from localhost? BTW it fails to show for localhost but only 127.0.0.1. Possibly there is some issue with needing the virtual internet working to configure. Shutting down gives me this.
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    Stopping VMware autostart virtual machines:
       Virtual machines                                                   failed
    Stopping VMware management services:
       VMware Virtual Infrastructure Web Access
       VMware Server Host Agent                                           failed
    Stopping VMware services:
       VMware Authentication Daemon                                        done
       Virtual machine communication interface                             done
       Virtual machine monitor                                             done
       Bridged networking on /dev/vmnet0                                   done
       Host network detection                                              done
       Virtual ethernet                                                   failed
    Seemingly some of these might be expected as it's not configured but vmnet-bridge and vmware-hostd have to be manually killed if I want to try configuring again. I've combed all the posts I could search and confirmed I've done everything relevant for opensuse 11.1.

    I'm running an AMD Phenom Quad 2500 64 bit with 8GB RAM. I even made out with the devil and bought Vista 64 bit to try as well as my copy of XP. I'm now going to install Vista to dual boot on another drive and rely on opensuse to boot manage it. I've read it may be possible to use either a VirtualBox image or a phisical install with vmware server. It seemed pointless to install XP 32 bit on this machine. I am running databases for my business and doing Linux software development so I'd like to not have to dual boot to run my studio. TIA

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    Default Re: vmware virtualization blues

    Don't feel to bad about yourself. Though I think you will be sadly disappointed by Vista. Though you have the advantage of RAM overkill, well for most of us it is, but Vista will love it.

    Windows has it's place and credit when due, XP has been and still is a great bit of work. Pretty much All I see in the business workplace is XP, often a downgrade from Vista.

    Not for me of course. But if you need it.

    There are, incidentally spins I think in Ubuntu that focus on your line of work. But I dare say its focus is on apps like for like with windows, rather than usb drivers.
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    Tried vmware for music but gave up as i was unable to get my firewire sound card an hardware dongles. Had to use xp tried vista but hated it. Only have 4 gb ram but it works fine with Cubase 4 which i use
    You could try getting the 64 bit version of XP have it on my developmen machine on work. Pretty similar specs to yours intel quad core 8 gb. Use vmware for different environments to test the software

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    The problem is the first part of the howto: the kernel part is not working (not for me).. I made a little manual, it's in dutch, but i'm sure you can read the commands

    The second part of this howto is very interesting, i'll have a look further into it

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    Quote Originally Posted by kittyhooch View Post
    ............. Starting with /etc/init.d/vmware start gives me this.
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    Starting VMware services:                       
       Virtual machine monitor                                            failed
       Virtual machine communication interface                             done 
       Virtual ethernet                                                   failed
       Bridged networking on /dev/vmnet0                                   done
    ..........
    That message usually occurs after a failed run of vmware-config.pl or if a kernel-update has come in. You need to run it again.

    Ensure that during the re-run that you choose yourself as the admin manager for the VMachines.

    Check you changed the line in /etc/sysconfig/boot to RUN_PARALLEL="yes"

    In Yast --> System --> System Services (Runlevel) --> Expert: set service vmware to 2, 3 and 5. Set all the other vmware-related services to off and no runlevels.

    If you prefer to start it occasionally rather than at boot. Set the runlevels for vmware to no runlevels and the service to off. Then you can start it with /etc/init.d/vmware start in a root console.

    The main thing here is I think that a kernel-type update has occurred or the install failed. So you need I think to run vmware-config.pl again.

    Check rpms installed for: kernel-source, make, gcc, gcc-c++ (most likely are)
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    I have run vmware-config.pl more times than I have tried variations on VirtualBox. I have been getting indications of success with no failures on at the end. However I have been getting an error when it tries to build vsock. I mentioned this already. It says it's optional. The funny thing is it says it may have to do with the kernel not matching due to an update. I found another post on the web suggesting to get kernel sources, clone the running configuration and build the sources so this would match. I wish I could remember the link as it was days of hell ago. Anyway that appeared to have worked, but possibly it didn't.

    This brings up two pivotal points to explore. First what path does this need for kernel headers. It seems it gets them from an object directory, not the original source path and it builds. Can someone give me a verifiable reference directory? The other point is the question of how to insure my kernel and headers match. My running kernel seems fine and I have built a lot of kernels with Gentoo and other distributions. I've also hosed it a few times. Any reference for the least invasive and most probable successful course here? Rebuild and install? I guess I could look at the docs.

    Thanks, and for the reference as to whether I will like Vista, Get a life! I have been a project lead on some of the more popular open source projects (Quanta & Kommander) for the last 8 years precisely because I believe in free as in GPL and I detest the Microsoft culture. I have grown to hate Windows the more I use it, but the best sequencer on Linux is Rosegarden which crashes on opensuse and I've never got fully working on anything including Gentoo. Even so it's no Cakewalk Sonar and I don't think I'm likely to see a GPL'd competitor to Melodyne. It's not easy for me dual booting to Vista... Well it is since I fixed grub, but I didn't want to do this and I didn't want to spendover a thousand dollars on software for a platform I hate. That said I have to give Microsoft it's due. In spite of needing to reboot, a little bit of inconsistent behavior with drivers and only one desktop I would say over all there are things I really like about Vista and it's by far the best I've seen from them. It also exposes why even if opensuse isn't as aesthetically decorated it still does a lot of stuff better out of the box. It's all academic though. If I want to run this software it's either cough up for a mac or use my current system. $100 to the evil empire or $2000 to their little brother.

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    There's a patch for the vsock thing here:
    Getting VMware to run on openSUSE 11.1 - Page 2 - openSUSE Forums

    There's a mix of VM workstation and Server 2 discussions starting here:
    Getting VMware to run on openSUSE 11.1 - openSUSE Forums
    and running about 4 pages, including I think, compilations.
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    try this:

    Open a terminal and as a superuser type

    mv /usr/lib/vmware/modules/binary /usr/lib/vmware/modules/binary.old

    Now start vmware, it will rebuild all the modules. Note you have to have kernel development installed, and it works best if you actually build the kernel, don't have to install it just build it.

    make menuconfig (exit saving config, don't have to change anything)
    make
    make modules

    Now when you remove the modules/binary directory it should have all the proper objects and symbols to properly compile the modules vmware needs.

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    I'm just curious, but is there any reason why you are using VMware Server rather than VMware Workstation? With Workstation I am able to run Windows XP (for SolidWorks and MS Office) just fine, and with the new version you no longer need to mess with the vmware-config nonsense, it just ran like it should. Originally I was having trouble with the vmware-config stuff as well, so I switched back to VirtualBox, but it still can't handle the graphics in SolidWorks, so I switched back to VMware Workstation 6.5.1 and it ran just fine right away, no more vmware-config. It seems to me that if you are just running music programs that wouldn't require a server, but I don't have any experience with that.

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