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  1. #1
    6205 NNTP User

    Default Broken 11.1 ?


    Ehmm...i have just installed GNOME Live CD with 11.1 but i have a few
    issues which really **** me off..

    First try to run terminal, enter su command followed by root password.
    Then i have tried to run for example nautilus or gconf-editor, but
    instead of opening those apps with admin rights, terminal gets full of
    error messages.

    Package manager GUI is little improved, but those rpm package depencies
    and patterns are killing me.

    Looks like Packman is in conflict with Videolan repository, visible on
    xvid core package and why the hell must be all language packages in
    conflict with updated apps like Brasero etc. In Ubuntu, when i
    downloaded updated package from getdeb.net, it never fights with my
    current lang file installed, bud rpm packages are fighting each other.

    There are also new, strange depencies. I cannot anymore remove
    gnome-pilot without removing evolution, or when i add packman repo, it
    wants to install into my system aditional gstreamer plugins, even if i
    don't want them an therefore i must remove them without depency
    problems, right after installation...wtf?

    Updater applet seems to not working, update were done through Yast and
    i'm also unable to set up on-line updates. A what is that stupid GDM
    screen with one user?

    meh..


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  2. #2
    oldcpu NNTP User

    Default Re: Broken 11.1 ?


    6205;1914403 Wrote:
    > First try to run terminal, enter su command followed by root password.
    > Then i have tried to run for example nautilus or gconf-editor, but
    > instead of opening those apps with admin rights, terminal gets full of
    > error messages. Try "gnomesu" instead of "su".


    6205;1914403 Wrote:
    > Looks like Packman is in conflict with Videolan repository The conflict between Packman and Videolan repos been like this for a

    while. Nothing new there with 11.1.

    IMHO use Videolan repos for only libdvdcss and then remove Videolan,
    and only use Packman, Oss, Non-OSS, and Update. Just those 4. No
    others. None. Your dependency problems will mostly go away. When you
    learn more about resolving dependencies, then feel free to add more.
    There are still some (a small number of) Packman apps that do not have
    all their dependencies populated (also in Packman) and all you can do
    their is either wait, or build the missing packages yourself.


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  3. #3
    6205 NNTP User

    Default Re: Broken 11.1 ?


    btw. what about fonts?

    - if i try to open any ttf font file copied from vista i get error that
    gnome(or something)cannot display/view this type of file... it was fully
    working in previous releases

    - in 11.0 was not possible to enable subpixel hinting in gnome,
    patched/updated libraries have enabled this feature only in terminal and
    rest of the gnome was unchanged.
    http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/9...razovkafq4.png but the same
    thing is here in 11.1 and why was this not resolved from day one anyway?
    microsoft DOES NOT OWN ultimate right to use subpixel hinting on fonts.
    they have patended ClearType technology only and the way it smooth
    fonts. but not smoothing idea or something...i asume freetype2 libs are
    not MS property, renamed and recompiled..

    - what should i do if i want to use vlc player? i need videolan repo,
    vlc blends nicely with gnome so that's it...

    Also i would like to know if these issues of mine are related only to
    Live CD or are they present also on DVD version of GNOME which always
    install a lot more of bloat..

    mm...i'm sad folks


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  4. #4
    Magic31 NNTP User

    Default Re: Broken 11.1 ?


    I've used the DVD to install openSUSE 11.1 with GNOME.. I have no
    issues whatsoever.

    The fonts are fine (crisp and sharp) for me and needed very little
    tuning.. so it should be possible to get it running stably.
    No errors using 'su -' in a terminal either.

    The 6 month cycle is used to put many new enhancements in the openSUSE
    distro as also new software.. Also the build service was introduced in
    this release to completely build the ISO's. The high pace sometimes
    means there are still some issues at GM release. Usually things get
    straightened out with updates in the first month.
    Long stroy short.. it looks like openSUSE 11.2 will have a cycle of 9
    months dev. I hope so as this also gives the testers more time to test
    and report back... which in theory would mean a more stable GM release.

    I can only say I've used the DVD to install four different systems (3
    GNOME, 1 KDE 4.1) .. and they are all running dandy! The only glitch I
    had was with my laptop.. and that could be due to the Intel video
    driver, but I'm still looking in to that. (2 freezes in the last month
    and a half. - stared using Beta5 on my laptop).

    Wish you luck,
    Wj


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    6205 NNTP User

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    openSUSE Nautilus is missing these buttons..

    http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8499/59677121vi8.png

    is it possible to get them back and why they were removed from this
    distro?


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  6. #6
    Magic31 NNTP User

    Default Re: Broken 11.1 ?


    I remember you reporting that with openSUSE 11.0 too

    Did you ever get around to opening a bug report for it? Not sure if
    it's a standard GNOME button or if it was hidden intentionally.
    Can't find any real info on this...

    Your best bet would be to open a enhancement request for openSUSE 11.1.
    You can do that following the instructions found here : 'Submitting Bug
    Reports - openSUSE' (http://en.opensuse.org/Submitting_Bug_Reports)

    Cheers,
    Wj


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    6205 NNTP User

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    https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462077

    all i need now is some luck and support from other users


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  8. #8
    pdc 2 NNTP User

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    > *all i need now is some luck and support from other users*


    sounds like you feel very frustrated and dissatisfied 6205

    what particular areas can folks now help you in?

    as Magic31 commented to you: a LiveCD is .. sort of a starter ..

    all that might be needed is on a LiveDVD; so after a LiveCD install,
    one is gradually picking up packages that are needed;

    we did a LiveCD install of 11.0 a few months ago; we gradually added
    what we found we lacked!

    a post did detail what packages one can specify to add: sadly, I cannot
    find it now; apologies;

    You seem very keen to delete lots of stuff and be what one might call
    selective: that is your choice: maybe just leaving stuff on might save
    you dependency problems:

    best wishes and welcome to the OpenSuse forum


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  9. #9
    RedDwarf NNTP User

    Default Re: Broken 11.1 ?


    6205;1914450 Wrote:
    > why was this not resolved from day one anyway? microsoft DOES NOT OWN
    > ultimate right to use subpixel hinting on fonts. they have patended
    > ClearType technology only and the way it smooth fonts. but not smoothing
    > idea or something...i asume freetype2 libs are not MS property, renamed
    > and recompiled..

    Ask freetype devs, they did the change more than two years ago: '[ft]
    State of LCD/SubPixel Rendering in FreeType'
    (http://www.mail-archive.com/freetype.../msg00972.html)

    6205;1914450 Wrote:
    > - what should i do if i want to use vlc player? i need videolan repo,
    > vlc blends nicely with gnome so that's it...

    vlc is available from Packman.


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  10. #10
    6205 NNTP User

    Default Re: Broken 11.1 ?


    i see so videolan repo is propably good only for libdvdcss..


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