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  1. #1
    lucmove NNTP User

    Default Ugly images in Firefox


    I am a new user of Suse and I am intrigued by this problem with Firefox.
    Many images look awful. Here is a comparison.

    One page viewed in Firefox on the left and the same page viewed in
    Konqueror on the right:

    '[image:
    http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7...ox1gy0.th.png]'
    (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?i...irefox1gy0.png)
    '[image:
    http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9...or1tq7.th.png]'
    (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?i...queror1tq7.png)

    Why not see another comparison:

    '[image:
    http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3...ox2vl3.th.png]'
    (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?i...irefox2vl3.png)
    '[image:
    http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/1...or2nw9.th.png]'
    (http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?i...queror2nw9.png)

    Here are direct links. You may find these more convenient than the
    default ad-ridden intermediate pages that require several clicks:

    http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7...irefox1gy0.png
    http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9...queror1tq7.png
    http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3...irefox2vl3.png
    http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/1...queror2nw9.png

    It does not happen in every site, but it happens often enough to be
    annoying. Whose fault is this? Firefox's or some botched picture
    rendering in Suse?


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  2. #2
    seld NNTP User

    Default Re: Ugly images in Firefox


    I think it's a zoom function of Firefox 3.
    Firefox 2, when you used zoom function
    made only text bigger, while Firefox 3
    zooms pictures too, just like Opera.
    I prefer picture to be in scale 1:1,
    so I use 'No squint' extension.
    It allows you to adjust text and full zoom independently.
    Try it too:
    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2592


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  3. #3
    lucmove NNTP User

    Default Re: Ugly images in Firefox


    You're right. I had a little bit of zoom applied and didn't realize it.

    This version of Firefox (3.0.5 on openSuse 11.1) does not require any
    plug-ins. The View menu, Zoom entry, has a "Zoom text only" option.

    So everything is fine now. Thanks.

    Well, maybe too fine. The fonts look too thin in Firefox! I wonder if
    you have a solution to that too.


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  4. #4
    seld NNTP User

    Default Re: Ugly images in Firefox


    lucmove;1913377 Wrote:
    > The fonts look too thin in Firefox! I wonder if you have a solution to
    > that too.


    Hmm, maybe not the best solution,
    but still you may try to change default fonts in
    Edit->Preferences->Content -> Fonts & Colors.


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    lucmove NNTP User

    Default Re: Ugly images in Firefox


    Done that, didn't help. It's Suse. Suse doesn't have much regard for
    fonts. They looked awful in 11.0 and I've read that they still suck in
    KDE 4 (I'm using 3.5).


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  6. #6
    ardiware NNTP User

    Default Re: Ugly images in Firefox


    The thing is that Firefox "uses" GTK libraries to "draw" the windows,
    styles, theme and fonts; while Konqueror uses Qt to do so.

    When KDE launches some GTK app, it uses its GTK engine to render it,
    instead of Qt native engine. That's why gnome native appz looks weird
    under KDE. So, there's no solution to the thinner fonts, until Gnome &
    KDE developers joints efforts to do a better GUI.

    See you.


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  7. #7
    lucmove NNTP User

    Default Re: Ugly images in Firefox


    The fonts are too thin in QT too. Fonts suck in Suse. They are perfect
    in Slackware. I've been told by Suse users that fonts used to be very
    nice in Suse 10.3 and became ugly in 11.


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    LRE NNTP User

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    Nope, I've been having ugly fonts in all versions of suse from version 6
    to 11


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  9. #9
    lucmove NNTP User

    Default Re: Ugly images in Firefox


    Very encouraging. I'm this close to kicking Suse and not trying it again
    for another 6 years. What kind of 1998 distro still can't get fonts
    right?


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  10. #10
    RedDwarf NNTP User

    Default Re: Ugly images in Firefox


    The only problem I have with fonts is 'this one'
    (http://bugzilla.novell.com/461181). And it didn't happened with 11.0.

    With the MS fonts
    > $ fc-match serif
    > times.ttf: "Times New Roman" "Normal"
    > $ fc-match sans-serif
    > arial.ttf: "Arial" "Normal"
    > $ fc-match mono
    > andalemo.ttf: "Andale Mono" "Normal"

    and setting /etc/sysconfig/fonts-config:BYTECODE_BW_MAX_PIXEL to 18 I
    have the fonts exactly like I want them.


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