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  1. #1
    naimab NNTP User

    Default KDE 4 mysteries


    Hello,

    I have just installed SuSE 11.0 and got KDE 4 with it. I am used to the
    much more usable KDE 3 from my old SuSE 10, and have difficulties
    finding answers to some basic questions:

    1. The images I select as desktop background all appear stretched, but
    I can't find a way of controlling this.

    2. Amarok plays music fine, but all other system sounds give crackling
    noises through the speakers. I can't find any way of stopping the very
    annoying system sounds.

    3. Is there a way of going back to an earlier version of KDE without
    having to re-install the OS?

    I will be eternally grateful for any advice.

    Abe


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  2. #2
    baskitcaise NNTP User

    Default Re: KDE 4 mysteries

    naimab wrote:

    >
    > Hello,
    >
    > I have just installed SuSE 11.0 and got KDE 4 with it. I am used to
    > the much more usable KDE 3 from my old SuSE 10, and have difficulties
    > finding answers to some basic questions:
    >
    > 1. The images I select as desktop background all appear stretched, but
    > I can't find a way of controlling this.


    Right click desktop and select desktop settings in that pane you will see a drop down box that gives you the choice of how the background it applied: scaled centred maxpect etc...

    >
    > 2. Amarok plays music fine, but all other system sounds give crackling
    > noises through the speakers. I can't find any way of stopping the very
    > annoying system sounds.


    either try turning the PCM or volume down with kmix or whichever mixer you are using or turn notification off in the desktop settings>notifications section.

    >
    > 3. Is there a way of going back to an earlier version of KDE without
    > having to re-install the OS?


    you might have 3.5 installed any way just logout and on the login screen there is a `session`s selection have a look there to see if the option of kde3 is there if not then just go back to yast and install from your installation media, 3 and 4 can co-operate together so no probs there just select 3 from that `sessions` menu and login and you are good to go.

    >
    > I will be eternally grateful for any advice.
    >
    > Abe
    >
    >


    HTH

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  3. #3
    naimab NNTP User

    Default Re: KDE 4 mysteries


    baskitcaise;1910394 Wrote:
    > naimab wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > Hello,
    > >
    > > I have just installed SuSE 11.0 and got KDE 4 with it. I am used to
    > > the much more usable KDE 3 from my old SuSE 10, and have difficulties
    > > finding answers to some basic questions:
    > >
    > > 1. The images I select as desktop background all appear stretched,

    > but
    > > I can't find a way of controlling this.

    >
    > Right click desktop and select desktop settings in that pane you will
    > see a drop down box that gives you the choice of how the background it
    > applied: scaled centred maxpect etc...
    >
    > >
    > > 2. Amarok plays music fine, but all other system sounds give

    > crackling
    > > noises through the speakers. I can't find any way of stopping the

    > very
    > > annoying system sounds.

    >
    > either try turning the PCM or volume down with kmix or whichever mixer
    > you are using or turn notification off in the desktop
    > settings>notifications section.
    >
    > >
    > > 3. Is there a way of going back to an earlier version of KDE without
    > > having to re-install the OS?

    >
    > you might have 3.5 installed any way just logout and on the login
    > screen there is a `session`s selection have a look there to see if the
    > option of kde3 is there if not then just go back to yast and install
    > from your installation media, 3 and 4 can co-operate together so no
    > probs there just select 3 from that `sessions` menu and login and you
    > are good to go.
    >
    > >
    > > I will be eternally grateful for any advice.
    > >
    > > Abe
    > >
    > >

    >
    > HTH
    >
    > --
    > Mark....
    >
    > Nil illegitimi carborundum

    Hello again,

    Well, I tried.
    On the desktop I have already tried right click -> configure desktop,
    but found very limited options there. I can choose wallpaper, control
    its frequency of change (for slideshow), choose desktop theme and decide
    whether desktop icons are shown, shadowed and aligned. There is none of
    the options you refer to, which were of course the ones I was looking
    for right from the start. This feel like a Microsoft tool - looks pretty
    but is essentially useless...

    2. I turned PCM all the way down but to no avail. For example, when I
    backspace on an empty command prompt the sound I get is not only
    unclear, but it also reverberates for several seconds, as if it has an
    echo.

    3. Will try KDE 3, because 4 is not my cup of tea at all.

    Thanks,

    Abe


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  4. #4
    naimab NNTP User

    Default Re: KDE 4 mysteries


    Hi again,

    One more point: there is no option to select KDE 3 from the "session"
    menu in the login screen. There is KDE 4, TWM, Custom, Failsafe and
    perhaps one more.

    It looks like as far as KDE is concerned only 4 was installed, yet I
    don't recall being asked for any preference during the installation
    process.

    Thanks again,

    Abe


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  5. #5
    caf4926 NNTP User

    Default Re: KDE 4 mysteries


    You can add kde 3 from Yast - Software - Software Management
    filter by Patterns

    check
    kde3base
    kde3desktop

    accept

    Now kde3 will be an option

    You might want to use this repo by adding it to your list
    'Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.1'
    (http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...openSUSE_11.1/)

    it will give you the very latest kde3


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  6. #6
    rabauke NNTP User

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    If you want decent sound in KDE4, you have to add the packman repo and
    update libxine1. After doing so KDE4 will use xine as engine instead of
    the sucky gstreamer/fluendo.

    BTW: If you turn down your PCM completely you will not hear any sound.


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  7. #7
    naimab NNTP User

    Default Re: KDE 4 mysteries


    Many thanks, I have KDE 3 now and the background images look normal
    again.

    I will start a different thread regarding the sound problems, because
    they persist into KDE 3 and should not be part of my original KDE 4
    posting.

    Thanks again,

    Abe


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  8. #8
    zak89 NNTP User

    Default Re: KDE 4 mysteries


    That's strange. On my default openSUSE 11.1 KDE 4.1.3 installation, the
    Desktop settings have all the option's you say your missing.


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