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    twjolson NNTP User

    Default VMWare and Windows Partition


    I finally got Vmware workstation installed. I am trying to use my
    windows partition as part of a virtual machine, however, when I try to
    do this I get a "Permission Denied" message. I get the same when I try
    to put KTorrent downloads on the Windows Partition. And again when I try
    to create desktop short cuts to folders within the windows partition.
    Yet, I can navigate and open files perfectly within the file explorer. I
    tried changing the owner from root to me, giving full read/write/execute
    permissions, and still I get the same error message.

    Any other ideas?


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    caf4926 NNTP User

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    If it's NTFS you need to have it mount with the necessary permissions:
    Help: 'HowTo Mount NTFS Filesystem Partition Read Write Access in
    openSUSE 10, 11' (http://www.swerdna.net.au/linhowtontfs.html)

    Not sure how this would apply to VMWare.
    I'm a VBox user myself.


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    twjolson NNTP User

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    I shall try this tomorrow and get back to you; thank you for the quick
    reply.


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    twjolson NNTP User

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    It almost worked perfectly. I can copy and paste to windows, I can open
    up the virtual machines I already had saved on my Windows Partition, I
    can not, however, use my windows partition as the hard drive for a
    virtual machine. I aslo can't use my desktop launcher that points to
    /windows/D, it says permission denied still.

    What I did was gedit etc/fstab as per 'This tutorial '
    (http://en.opensuse.org/NTFS) and changed fmask=133,dmask=022 to
    fmask=113,dmask=002 for the correct ntfs partition.


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    tsu2 NNTP User

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    twjolson;1907806 Wrote:
    > however, use my windows partition as the hard drive for a virtual
    > machine.


    This is highly discouraged by VMware. Raw disks should be used only
    with expert understanding and still at great risk.

    The danger is that ordinarily the Operating System locks files being
    used, but Raw Disks bypasses this safety feature and could potentially
    crash and corrupt the partition/disk. If permissions isn't an issue, you
    could already be violating safe practices and the VMware application is
    trying to protect you from yourself.

    Unless you like playing with fire you should just create a virtual disk
    and copy the data from the physical disk into your virtual disk.


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    twjolson NNTP User

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    tsu2;1907895 Wrote:
    >
    > The danger is that ordinarily the Operating System locks files being
    > used, but Raw Disks bypasses this safety feature and could potentially
    > crash and corrupt the partition/disk.
    >
    > Unless you like playing with fire you should just create a virtual disk
    > and copy the data from the physical disk into your virtual disk.


    I know all this and have used logical volumes for virtual machines
    quite a bit in VMWare under windows. Locked files isn't a problem since
    the partition I'm aiming to use won't be booted up. I'll be accessing
    the windows partition in linux, two different partitions, two different
    OS's. Plus, the up time of the windows partition will be minimal,
    otherwise I would just boot out of linux and into windows. Never had a
    problem before.

    I can't just copy the data, because I am not doing this for the sake of
    data. Data is easy enough. I'm more doing it to access programs that
    will not and can not run under linux any other way.

    On that note, any other ideas what might be going on here?


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    tsu2 NNTP User

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    twjolson;1907806 Wrote:
    > It almost worked perfectly. I can copy and paste to windows, I can open
    > up the virtual machines I already had saved on my Windows Partition, I
    > can not, however, use my windows partition as the hard drive for a
    > virtual machine. I aslo can't use my desktop launcher that points to
    > /windows/D, it says permission denied still.
    >
    > What I did was gedit etc/fstab as per 'This tutorial '
    > (http://en.opensuse.org/NTFS) and changed fmask=133,dmask=022 to
    > fmask=113,dmask=002 for the correct ntfs partition.


    You might need to be a bit more descriptive what isn't working.

    So, one example I can think of which will fail is if you configure a VM
    which is located on your NTFS partition and attempt to configure the
    NTFS partition also as a second virtual disk.

    Some parameters off the top of my head...
    -What partition is your VMware application located on?
    -What partition is your VM located on?
    -Do you have multiple VMs running and on what partitions?
    -What error are you getting, when you create a Raw Disk or when you
    attempt to run a VM with the Raw Disk connected?

    Personally, the only relatively safe way I would use a Raw Disk is read
    only, like a virtual CDROM. What you're doing risks both your Host and
    Guest VMs plus all the data. Even if you think you might believe things
    are working well and hasn't caused a problem before, all it takes is
    once for an unexplainable glitch or gremlin to cause a catastrophe.


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