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  1. #1
    emilemma NNTP User

    Default get rid of windows


    i have a dell xps410 machine & did a dual boot with opensuse 11. to do
    that i had to delete a raid 0 array and then i had 2 250GB HDs. at that
    point i reinstalled windows on hd1 and suse on hd2. when i reinstalled
    windows i had to download various chipsets, drivers etc. from dell to
    complete the install of windows.

    my question is this: if i want to get rid of windows on hd1 & install
    just suse on my pc on hd1, will i be able to download and install the
    various drivers, chipset, etc from dell within the linux environment?
    or am i screwed and have to keep windows on my machine in order to
    install the drivers, etc?

    thanks for any help!!


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    ab@novell.com NNTP User

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    Which "drivers" are these? Are they windows drivers? If so it won't
    matter because you won't be on windows. If there are other things that
    are hardware-related there are usually ways to do OS-agnostic things
    like flashing firmware without windows.... something as simple as a
    bootable medium with DOS on it will often work.

    Good luck.





    emilemma wrote:
    > i have a dell xps410 machine & did a dual boot with opensuse 11. to do
    > that i had to delete a raid 0 array and then i had 2 250GB HDs. at that
    > point i reinstalled windows on hd1 and suse on hd2. when i reinstalled
    > windows i had to download various chipsets, drivers etc. from dell to
    > complete the install of windows.
    >
    > my question is this: if i want to get rid of windows on hd1 & install
    > just suse on my pc on hd1, will i be able to download and install the
    > various drivers, chipset, etc from dell within the linux environment?
    > or am i screwed and have to keep windows on my machine in order to
    > install the drivers, etc?
    >
    > thanks for any help!!
    >
    >

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    emilemma NNTP User

    Default Re: get rid of windows


    drivers & etc would be: chipset, cd & dvd drivers, mouse, video
    cards(nvidia), network etc.

    i'm not very experienced at this so i feel kind of lost.

    any help appreciated

    many thanks!!


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  4. #4
    caf4926 NNTP User

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    You can download drivers from dell, no probs


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    microchip8 NNTP User

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    emilemma;1905576 Wrote:
    > drivers & etc would be: chipset, cd & dvd drivers, mouse, video
    > cards(nvidia), network etc.
    >
    > i'm not very experienced at this so i feel kind of lost.
    >
    > any help appreciated
    >
    > many thanks!!


    unless your Dell machine has some exotic piece of hardware/chipset, you
    will not need to download anything from anywhere. The Linux kernel
    itself supports A LOT of hardware and chips by default


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  6. #6
    caf4926 NNTP User

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    Just to reiterate -
    And as Microchip relates - Your issue with drivers and windows, really
    has no relation to Linux at all.
    Mostly you will find everything has a driver, though I'm not sure I
    would go so far as to say: > you will not need to download anything from anywhereMaybe you were asking if there were Linux drivers for your machine on
    the Dell site. There could be. Dell does now ship some machines with
    Linux. And most of the big names in the world of PC's do have or have
    made some effort to supply Linux drivers. But mostly, the ones you will
    use will be Open Source and not related to Dell at all.

    I'm a little puzzled though, because you say you are already dual
    booting. So you should know something about the drivers being used on
    your OS 11.0 system. Earlier in the thread when you said: > will i be able to download and install the various drivers, chipset, etc
    > from dell within the linux environment? I thought you were suggesting that you might have difficulty accessing

    Dell or the drivers -working from a Linux desktop. Well, of course you
    can access and download whatever drivers there are, regardless of
    whether you use Linux or windows. Though it is likely that 99% of the
    drivers will be for windows, but if you don't have windows anymore, you
    will not need them.
    *Except* Perhaps should you need a wireless driver (usually for
    laptops). If no driver exisits for Linux - You can use the XP driver
    with ndiswrapper.

    Hope that clarifies matters.


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  7. #7
    JJMT NNTP User

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    The OP may be referring to Dell firmware (not drivers). I have
    maintained a Windows partition on my laptop precisely to satisfy this
    need. The firmware installation only works with Windows. That said, in
    two years running linux on my Dell laptop, I did not once boot Windows
    for that purpose. YMMV.


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  8. #8
    emilemma NNTP User

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    i guess what i'm trying to get at is if i download drivers, etc. from
    dell as files ending in .exe can those be executed within linux and
    installed without any problem. i just don't want to load linux and then
    download something that can't be executed for what ever reason. i may
    not need very much, i don't know for sure, but just trying to play safe
    to be sure that my machine comes up allright and then works ok.

    i'm new at this and not experienced. i don't want to install linux and
    then find out i can't run it for whatever reason.

    thanks for help!!!


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  9. #9
    Penguinclaw NNTP User

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    You should be OK without windows if your only concern is the hardware
    updates etc. I've never had an issue without windows. OK most
    manufacturers release fixes for windows only but they are, in my
    experience, infrequent to say the least.

    I have put linux on Pc's that their owners had given up with (ie chuck
    them away and buy vista): of course said owners are now over the moon
    and new converts!!! as well as newbies like yourself.

    My advice, if you're not ready to take the plunge, is stick with the
    dual boot option for now. Or if you've got the windows install disk,
    take the plunge and see...what have you got to lose


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  10. #10
    caf4926 NNTP User

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    emilemma;1906029 Wrote:
    > i guess what i'm trying to get at is if i download drivers, etc. from
    > dell as files ending in .exe can those be executed within linux and
    > installed without any problem. i just don't want to load linux and then
    > download something that can't be executed for what ever reason. i may
    > not need very much, i don't know for sure, but just trying to play safe
    > to be sure that my machine comes up allright and then works ok.
    >
    > i'm new at this and not experienced. i don't want to install linux and
    > then find out i can't run it for whatever reason.
    >
    > thanks for help!!!


    First. Linux does not use windows .exe files

    Having said that, and not wanting to confuse you, it is possible to use
    them in a Linux application/environment called 'wine'. Usually to
    install a windows application. But all this is nothing to do with your
    question.

    And as I mentioned, you MAY need to use a windows driver in certain
    situation eg: wireless driver/ndiswrapper.

    Just know this. Don't expect to be able to run 'windows' games. (Though
    it is possible, it's not as easy as put the CD in and away you go).

    Linux supplies everything you need from a Desktop and more... WAY more
    than anything 'windows' offers - and for free.


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