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    Question Software Updates

    Is it safe to install all updates through GUI? Or should I still;
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    zypper dup
    through terminal?
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    Default Re: Software Updates

    It's probz safer to Ctrl + Alt + F1 all updates right?
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    Default Re: Software Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by fleamour View Post
    It's probz safer to Ctrl + Alt + F1 all updates right?
    Yes, from personal experience, for TW I'd go with zypper dup from a virtual terminal.
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    Default Re: Software Updates

    Actually I just updated to TW 20160307 using zypper dup.

    It downgraded some "glibc" packages to v2.22... googling around afterwards it seems that there were a few problems caused by a recent update to v2.23
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    Quote Originally Posted by fleamour View Post
    It's probz safer to Ctrl + Alt + F1 all updates right?
    In my experience, it is reasonably safe to update through GUI UNLESS something related to Xorg is involved.
    If that is the case, the old habit of switching to VT1 and "zypper dup" is safer, since even if the GUI crashes you are left with an updated system (and a bootable one, which is far more important!)
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    Default Re: Software Updates

    Coincidently, I just read this on the opensuse-kde mailing list:

    http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-k.../msg00030.html


    For the TW 20160307 update then "zypper dup" is the safer it would seem.

    There was indeed an Xorg update:

    ==== xorg-x11-server ====
    Subpackages: xorg-x11-server-extra xorg-x11-server-sdk
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    Quote Originally Posted by tannington View Post
    Coincidently, I just read this on the opensuse-kde mailing list:

    http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-k.../msg00030.html
    I didn't see that before writing, but that is exactly what I meant...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tannington View Post
    Coincidently, I just read this on the opensuse-kde mailing list:

    http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2016-03/msg00030.html
    Yes, that happened to me this morning. Fortunately I was prepared.

    I updated using "zypper dup" in a "screen -L" session.

    So, after seeing the GUI login screen, I logged in again, did a "cd" to the appropriate directory, then ran
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    tail -f screenlog.0
    and I could see the output of the update continuing until it finished. The "screen" command is great for adding an isolation barrier between the GUI desktop and the terminal command being run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    Yes, that happened to me this morning. Fortunately I was prepared.

    I updated using "zypper dup" in a "screen -L" session.

    So, after seeing the GUI login screen, I logged in again, did a "cd" to the appropriate directory, then ran
    Code:
    tail -f screenlog.0
    and I could see the output of the update continuing until it finished. The "screen" command is great for adding an isolation barrier between the GUI desktop and the terminal command being run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrsoBruno View Post
    Thanks Neil, we never stop learning here...
    I learned this the hard way, in June 2014, when Xorg was restarted in the middle of an update. And it left me with a broken system. See the mailing list thread that starts here
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