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    Default KDE Wallet Service

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    When starting the plasma 5, I get error:

    Error opening the wallet 'kdewallet'. Please try again. (Error code -9: Read error -possibly incorrect password). However I'm entering password right. I also enter password to another 'old' style dialog and it accepts it and old applications work. But new plasma 5 one is not.

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    How did you get there?

    Specifically, did you upgrade kwallet from opensuse 13.2. Or did you downgrade from Tumbleweed?

    As far as I know, upgrade from Tumbleweed should work for the KDE4 wallet, but you should be prompted for a new password for the new plasma 5 wallet. Downgrading from Tumbleweed doesn't work, particularly if you used GPG encryption for kwallet on Tumbleweed, since Leap does not appear to support that.

    You can delete the wallet files -- best done while not logged into the plasma 5 desktop (you could login to Icewm for that). That would allow you to start over. But you would lose what is saved in the wallet.
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    Thank you very much for fast responce.
    I upgraded kwallet from opensuse 13.2. KDE wallet migration service also requests password but fails with the same error.
    Can I export old wallet unencrypted and import it to the new one?

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    Thanks for the alert!
    I've checked this Leap 42.1 system which was upgraded from 13.2 and found:
    • kwalletmanager:

    zypper info --requires kwalletmanager reveals that this package requires the kdebase4-runtime and kwalletmanager5.
    In other words, it's the Plasma KDE4 KWallet manager . . .
    I suggest that it should be simply removed.

    Apart from WLAN access and KMail ISP server passwords there isn't too much in this machine's wallet:
    I managed to get by by simply deleting the wallet and then recreating it.
    But, I thoroughly recommend exporting everything you can think of before upgrading from 13.2 to Leap 42.1; and, before performing the upgrade take a break and preferably sleep overnight as well and then, before performing the upgrade, export everything you forgot to export the day before.

    Kontact/KMail is also proving to be an issue: the upgrade left the Plasma KDE4 version active and didn't automatically (auto-magically?) offer the Plasma 5 version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rafisv View Post
    Can I export old wallet unencrypted and import it to the new one?
    I did that (successfully) a while ago.

    However, I imported the 13.2 wallet into the kde4 wallet (using kwalletmanager). Then I allowed that to migrate into the plasma 5 wallet. I later installed "kwalletmanager5" (which uninstalled kwalletmanager) so that I could configure the Plasma 5 wallet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    I later installed "kwalletmanager5" (which uninstalled kwalletmanager) so that I could configure the Plasma 5 wallet.
    Just a note: since the last KDE Applications update (released for Leap and Tumbleweed last week) it is now possible to have both (kwalletmanager and kwalletmanager5) installed at the same time, and also both should be installed by default now on Leap 42.1, for Tumbleweed the installation patterns have been changed to (only) install kwalletmanager5 some time ago (but you can install the KDE4 kwalletmanager in addition manually now).
    Last edited by wolfi323; 29-Feb-2016 at 08:17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcurtisfra View Post
    In other words, it's the Plasma KDE4 KWallet manager . . .
    I suggest that it should be simply removed.
    I strongly disagree.
    You need it to manage the KDE4 wallet, that is used by KDE4 applications (kdepim4 e.g., or konqueror).

    As long as not all applications are ported to KF5 (or kwallet5 is changed to also support KDE4 applications and "replace" kwallet4), we should *not* remove it.

    As I wrote in my previous post, it doesn't get installed by default on Tumbleweed any more though, and therefore won't be in Leap 42.2 either (unless this is going to be changed again... ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    Just a note: since the last KDE Applications update (released for Leap and Tumbleweed last week) it is now possible to have both (kwalletmanager and kwalletmanager5) installed at the same time, and also both should be installed by default now on Leap 42.1, for Tumbleweed the installation patterns have been changed to (only) install kwalletmanager5 some time ago (but you can install the KDE4 kwalletmanager in addition manually now).
    Thanks.

    I knew there was a bug report on this that was marked as fixed. But I didn't notice that the fix had made it to the repos.

    I have now reinstalled kwalletmanager (on Leap), though I'm not sure that I'll actually need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    I strongly disagree.
    You need it to manage the KDE4 wallet, that is used by KDE4 applications (kdepim4 e.g., or konqueror).
    Thank you wolfi323. I've reinstalled it and am currently having fun getting the Plasma Menu sorted out -- need to distinguish between the Plasma 5 KDE Password Manager and the Plasma KDE4 version -- they were indistinguishable from one another when searching.

    I've also finally got the Plasma 5 Kontact almost up and running -- it took a while to realise that I had the KDE4 Password Manager open but, the KMail passwords had been migrated to the Plasma 5 Password Manager (somehow - unnoticed).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcurtisfra View Post
    Thank you wolfi323. I've reinstalled it and am currently having fun getting the Plasma Menu sorted out -- need to distinguish between the Plasma 5 KDE Password Manager and the Plasma KDE4 version -- they were indistinguishable from one another when searching.
    Yes, I know. They have the same name.

    But you can open kwalletmanager5 in "Configure Desktop" (systemsettings5) too.

    I've also finally got the Plasma 5 Kontact almost up and running -- it took a while to realise that I had the KDE4 Password Manager open but, the KMail passwords had been migrated to the Plasma 5 Password Manager (somehow - unnoticed).
    As has been mentioned already, kwallet5 migrates/imports the KDE4 wallet on first start.

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