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  1. #1
    Peter_Abc NNTP User

    Default Yast2 Software Management - 'Package Groups'

    Hi,
    I think there is bug in this section or it is just incomplete
    since the recoding of more than a year ago.

    Here is what I note:

    1. Suggested Packages, Recommended Packages, Orphaned Packages,
    and Needed Packages sections/groups work as they should.

    2. The rest (of the groups) do NOT COLLAPSE the uninstalled packages
    if more than one version exists, as happens in every other section of
    the Yast2 (qt) Software Management program/tool. This means if there
    are ten version updates of a particular package, you will see all of
    them (multiply that by the many tens or hundreds of non-installed
    packages and it becomes hard to make a simple selection) and with
    the same version id. So this to me looks like a bug and I have seen
    it on five 13.2 installs and one on Leap 42.1 but would like to see a
    confirmation by others. Briefly searched Bugzilla but did no see
    any bug reports on this issue nor could Google search bring up
    anything relevant.

    3. 'All Packages' and 'Programming' sections/groups have a definite
    and noticeable time lag of between 10 to 20 seconds when moving to and
    away from them. 'Y2base' is the command showing up in 'Top' as cpu
    grabber (100%).

    It is not a big deal for me and I can work around this issue but
    Yast (qt) just seems not to be 100% with this oddity around.

    Cheers,
    Peter





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    Default Re: Yast2 Software Management - 'Package Groups'

    As an NNTP user, you managed to skip the filling in of the openSUSE version you use. Thus, as an NNTP user, you are requested to deliver that information by yourself in your post.
    Henk van Velden

  3. #3
    Peter_Abc NNTP User

    Default Re: Yast2 Software Management - 'Package Groups'

    On 10/01/16 01:06, hcvv wrote:
    >
    > As an NNTP user, you managed to skip the filling in of the openSUSE
    > version you use. Thus, as an NNTP user, you are requested to deliver
    > that information by yourself in your post.


    I thought the following in my first post would be sufficient info to
    answer your question:
    > 2. The rest (of the groups) do NOT COLLAPSE the uninstalled packages
    > if more than one version exists, as happens in every other section of
    > the **Yast2 (qt)** Software Management program/tool. This means if there
    > are ten version updates of a particular package, you will see all of
    > them (multiply that by the many tens or hundreds of non-installed
    > packages and it becomes hard to make a simple selection) and with
    > the same version id. So this to me looks like a bug and I have seen
    > it on **five 13.2 installs and one on Leap 42.1"" but would like to see a
    > confirmation by others. Briefly searched Bugzilla but did no see
    > any bug reports on this issue nor could Google search bring up
    > anything relevant.


    In any case, as stated in my first post, I am currently using openSUSE
    13.2 (the Leap 42.1 install is now deleted but had same issue and was
    a fresh upgrade from a default kade4 13.2 install via zypper dup),
    2 x Kde4 (32 bit and 64 bit on different laptops) and a Gnome 3 and Xfce
    64 bit on separate partitions. All use Yast2-qt version Software
    Management package/module.

    I should think this is easy enough to verify by anyone using Yast2-qt
    Software Management - 'Package Groups' on 13.2 or Leap and give some
    feedback.

    Cheers,
    Peter

    PS: I will not have much time to further respond today after the next
    hour or so.

  4. #4
    Peter_Abc NNTP User

    Default Re: Yast2 Software Management - 'Package Groups'

    On 10/01/16 01:06, hcvv wrote:
    >
    > As an NNTP user, you managed to skip the filling in of the openSUSE
    > version you use. Thus, as an NNTP user, you are requested to deliver
    > that information by yourself in your post.


    I thought the following in my first post would be sufficient info to
    answer your question:
    > 2. The rest (of the groups) do NOT COLLAPSE the uninstalled packages
    > if more than one version exists, as happens in every other section of
    > the **Yast2 (qt)** Software Management program/tool. This means if there
    > are ten version updates of a particular package, you will see all of
    > them (multiply that by the many tens or hundreds of non-installed
    > packages and it becomes hard to make a simple selection) and with
    > the same version id. So this to me looks like a bug and I have seen
    > it on **five 13.2 installs and one on Leap 42.1"" but would like to see a
    > confirmation by others. Briefly searched Bugzilla but did no see
    > any bug reports on this issue nor could Google search bring up
    > anything relevant.


    In any case, as stated in my first post, I am currently using openSUSE
    13.2 (the Leap 42.1 install is now deleted but had same issue and was
    a fresh upgrade from a default kade4 13.2 install via zypper dup),
    2 x Kde4 (32 bit and 64 bit on different laptops) and a Gnome 3 and Xfce
    64 bit on separate partitions. All use Yast2-qt version Software
    Management package/module.

    I should think this is easy enough to verify by anyone using Yast2-qt
    Software Management - 'Package Groups' on 13.2 or Leap and give some
    feedback.

    Cheers,
    Peter

    PS: I will not have much time to further respond today after the next
    hour or so.

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    Default Re: Yast2 Software Management - 'Package Groups'

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_Abc View Post
    I should think this is easy enough to verify by anyone using Yast2-qt
    Software Management - 'Package Groups' on 13.2 or Leap and give some
    feedback.
    Yes, I tried this on Leap 42.1, and I see the same thing. If there are 10 versions of a particular package, then that package shows 10 times. Each listing has the latest version (or perhaps that's the installed version). Using the versions tab, I counted the number of versions and it seems to be the same as the number of times the package is listed.

    Have you reported a bug?
    openSUSE Leap 15.1; KDE Plasma 5;
    testing Leap 15.2Alpha

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    Peter_Abc NNTP User

    Default Re: Yast2 Software Management - 'Package Groups'

    On 10/01/16 10:06, nrickert wrote:
    >
    > Peter_Abc;2747760 Wrote:
    >> I should think this is easy enough to verify by anyone using Yast2-qt
    >> Software Management - 'Package Groups' on 13.2 or Leap and give some
    >> feedback.

    >
    > Yes, I tried this on Leap 42.1, and I see the same thing. If there are
    > 10 versions of a particular package, then that package shows 10 times.
    > Each listing has the latest version (or perhaps that's the installed
    > version). Using the versions tab, I counted the number of versions and
    > it seems to be the same as the number of times the package is listed.
    >
    > Have you reported a bug?


    Thanks for your confirmation and I have not reported a bug yet. I have
    only ever put in one bug report and that was like back in 2008.
    I will not have time in the next week or so but if no one more efficient
    than I at big reports puts one in, I will do it after that.

    Cheers,
    Peter


  7. #7
    Peter_Abc NNTP User

    Default Re: Yast2 Software Management - 'Package Groups'

    On 10/01/16 10:06, nrickert wrote:
    >
    > Peter_Abc;2747760 Wrote:
    >> I should think this is easy enough to verify by anyone using Yast2-qt
    >> Software Management - 'Package Groups' on 13.2 or Leap and give some
    >> feedback.

    >
    > Yes, I tried this on Leap 42.1, and I see the same thing. If there are
    > 10 versions of a particular package, then that package shows 10 times.
    > Each listing has the latest version (or perhaps that's the installed
    > version). Using the versions tab, I counted the number of versions and
    > it seems to be the same as the number of times the package is listed.
    >
    > Have you reported a bug?


    Thanks for your confirmation and I have not reported a bug yet. I have
    only ever put in one bug report and that was like back in 2008.
    I will not have time in the next week or so but if no one more efficient
    than I at big reports puts one in, I will do it after that.

    Cheers,
    Peter


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    Default Re: Yast2 Software Management - 'Package Groups'

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_Abc View Post
    On 10/01/16 01:06, hcvv wrote:
    >
    > As an NNTP user, you managed to skip the filling in of the openSUSE
    > version you use. Thus, as an NNTP user, you are requested to deliver
    > that information by yourself in your post.


    I thought the following in my first post would be sufficient info to
    answer your question:

    In any case, as stated in my first post, I am currently using openSUSE
    13.2 (the Leap 42.1
    Cheers,
    Peter

    PS: I will not have much time to further respond today after the next
    hour or so.
    You are correct, you did mention it somewhere down. Sorry that I missed that.

    But it would be very nice to have that from the beginning. Then people know from the start what all this is about and they can skip it from the start when they have no experience with the version mentioned.
    Henk van Velden

  9. #9
    Peter_Abc NNTP User

    Default Re: Yast2 Software Management - 'Package Groups'

    On 01/10/2016 10:16 PM, hcvv wrote:
    >
    > Peter_Abc;2747760 Wrote:
    >> On 10/01/16 01:06, hcvv wrote:
    >>>
    >>> As an NNTP user, you managed to skip the filling in of the openSUSE
    >>> version you use. Thus, as an NNTP user, you are requested to deliver
    >>> that information by yourself in your post.

    >>
    >> I thought the following in my first post would be sufficient info to
    >> answer your question:
    >>
    >> In any case, as stated in my first post, I am currently using openSUSE
    >> 13.2 (the Leap 42.1
    >> Cheers,
    >> Peter
    >>
    >> PS: I will not have much time to further respond today after the next
    >> hour or so.

    > You are correct, you did mention it somewhere down. Sorry that I missed
    > that.
    >
    > But it would be very nice to have that from the beginning. Then people
    > know from the start what all this is about and they can skip it from the
    > start when they have no experience with the version mentioned.


    No worries, point taken and I will endeavour to keep this in mind for
    any future posts.

    Cheers,
    Peter

  10. #10
    Peter_Abc NNTP User

    Default Re: Yast2 Software Management - 'Package Groups'

    On 01/10/2016 10:16 PM, hcvv wrote:
    >
    > Peter_Abc;2747760 Wrote:
    >> On 10/01/16 01:06, hcvv wrote:
    >>>
    >>> As an NNTP user, you managed to skip the filling in of the openSUSE
    >>> version you use. Thus, as an NNTP user, you are requested to deliver
    >>> that information by yourself in your post.

    >>
    >> I thought the following in my first post would be sufficient info to
    >> answer your question:
    >>
    >> In any case, as stated in my first post, I am currently using openSUSE
    >> 13.2 (the Leap 42.1
    >> Cheers,
    >> Peter
    >>
    >> PS: I will not have much time to further respond today after the next
    >> hour or so.

    > You are correct, you did mention it somewhere down. Sorry that I missed
    > that.
    >
    > But it would be very nice to have that from the beginning. Then people
    > know from the start what all this is about and they can skip it from the
    > start when they have no experience with the version mentioned.


    No worries, point taken and I will endeavour to keep this in mind for
    any future posts.

    Cheers,
    Peter

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