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    Default Trinity + kwin_x11 --replace

    or /usr/bin/kwin_x11 does not work. It just freezes the desktop mostly. I can get out with ctrl alt double backspace though. In 13.2 there was an entry for kde 4 kwin in the settings for the window decoration in Trinity but it is not present for plasma 5 in leap. I could put in compiz but kwin worked well and was easy and it seems that a lot of the options are missing or incompatible with each other or just don't work plugins settings manager etc with compiz.

    Anybody know a quick easy fix?

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    Default Re: Trinity + kwin_x11 --replace

    are you truing to do run kde3 with kwin5 as it's window manager a qt3 app on top of qt5.5.1?
    I'm pretty sure that's not possible
    you can still install and use kde4's window manager
    https://software.opensuse.org/package/kwin
    another option is openbox it does support kde (plasma5 and kde4 not sure about kde3) it will register itself as an alternative to kwin
    ps
    we still have vanilla kde3 for opensuse
    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...USE_Leap_42.1/
    is there any difference between trinity and kde3?

    If you still run kde3 I'd recommend openbox instead of kde4's kwin as it's a lot lighter

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    Default Re: Trinity + kwin_x11 --replace

    If i understand you correctly I am trying to run Trinity which is a fork of Kde 3 with the "Kde 5" window manager instead of the TDE (Trinity) window manager because it is an easy way to get the desktop effects. Trinity like Kde 3 does not have them. There seems to be no complete compiz solution. Apparently you are telling me that you don't think I can do that but I can install the "Kde 4" window manager and use that. Can I install that alongside "Kde 5" or will that cause a conflict?

    It's not a big deal but I like to be able to run a 3d desktop if I want to.


    Thanks for the help.


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    Default Re: Trinity + kwin_x11 --replace

    it's an interesting way to get desktop effects on kde3
    well kwin from kde4 is still available, you may need kdebase4 installed to get the config window, try
    Code:
    zypper in kdebase4 kwin

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    Default Re: Interesting

    That worked and I got Tde and Mate both running with Kde4 kwin but without any 3d effects. Just the window decoration.

    What do I do to get the effects running and with the ability to choose and configure them?

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    Default Re: Interesting

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott_Swinyard View Post
    That worked and I got Tde and Mate both running with Kde4 kwin but without any 3d effects. Just the window decoration.

    What do I do to get the effects running and with the ability to choose and configure them?
    you're probably missing some kde4 try installing a bit more of kde4
    Code:
    zypper in kdebase4-session kdebase4-workspace kdebase4-runtime kdelibs4support kscreen konsole4-part kdm

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    Default Re: i made a mistake

    I tried running kwin --replace and that didn't give me any effects but choosing kwin from the options for the window manager in the Trinity control panel where it now appears has. I still don't have a way to choose or configure them that I know of though.

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    Default Re: i made a mistake

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott_Swinyard View Post
    I tried running kwin --replace and that didn't give me any effects but choosing kwin from the options for the window manager in the Trinity control panel where it now appears has. I still don't have a way to choose or configure them that I know of though.
    see if kdesystemsettings is installed, there should be a menu item named System Settings, or try running in a console
    Code:
    systemsettings
    kde4 system settings (needed to configure the effects) is in kdebase4-workspace-addons so install that one too
    Code:
    zypper in kdebase4-workspace-addons

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    Default Re: Interesting

    Quote Originally Posted by I_A View Post
    you're probably missing some kde4 try installing a bit more of kde4
    Code:
    zypper in kdebase4-session kdebase4-workspace kdebase4-runtime kdelibs4support kscreen konsole4-part kdm
    Can't do this. It conflicts with Plasma 5.

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    Default Re: Trinity + kwin_x11 --replace

    well yes you can't have both kde4 and plasma5 installed at the same time unless you're using wolfi's plasma5 packages
    well you only need kdebase4-workspace-addons for ksettings and maybe kdebase4-workspace, try installing only those 2
    Code:
    zypper in kdebase4-workspace-addons kdebase4-workspace
    if not to avoid conflicts you will need to get plasma5 from here
    http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/wolfi323:/branches:/KDE:/Frameworks5/openSUSE_Leap_42.1/

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