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    Question How to revert to the old look of YAST?

    Hello folks.

    I'm using OpenSuSE since 2012, and I always use XFCE as my DE.
    For me YaST always looked like this:



    However, since update to 42.1 it changed to this:



    I find the new version vastly inferior in terms of usability. One thing that REALLY gets me is lack of fuzzy string searching in the list of packages. In 13.2 I could just type "qt creator" and get both Qt4 and Qt5 versions. In 42.1 I get "zero results" even if the search string has a frigging space at the beginning or end (i.e. "libqt5-creator" finds the package and "libqt5-creator " does not).

    Thanks in advance.

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    Default Re: How to revert to the old look of YAST?

    That is not new in 42.1 it has had that look for a long time what version are you coming from?

    You can get something like it by selecting view and package groups Is that what you want?

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    Default Re: How to revert to the old look of YAST?

    A number of Desktops(and as you've discovered versions) open Software Management with different default settings (I use several so have noticed what you describe, too) but whatever you want is still there, nothing has changed except for the default view.

    Based on what you've posted, click on the "View" with downwards arrow at the top of the left pane and a dropdown should appear with a number of options. You'll probably want to select something like "Groups" or "Patterns" to see what you've seen before, or select something else you'd like.

    TSU

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    Quote Originally Posted by gogalthorp View Post
    That is not new in 42.1 it has had that look for a long time what version are you coming from?
    The first screenshot was taken in 13.2. Believe me when I say that for me it is new look of YaST in 42.1. Maybe you have another look because you don't use XFCE.

    Quote Originally Posted by gogalthorp View Post
    Is that what you want?
    At the very least I want a proper text search function with approximate string matching.

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    Default Re: How to revert to the old look of YAST?

    My 13.2 does not look like the first pick it looks like the second not sure how you did that.

    Select the search tab to search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsu2 View Post
    Based on what you've posted, click on the "View" with downwards arrow at the top of the left pane and a dropdown should appear with a number of options. You'll probably want to select something like "Groups" or "Patterns" to see what you've seen before, or select something else you'd like.
    Thanks, but all that does is opens a left panel with patterns. I'm not interested in those and this is not the reason why I want to revert (proper search is).

    Quote Originally Posted by tsu2 View Post
    A number of Desktops(and as you've discovered versions) open Software Management with different default settings (I use several so have noticed what you describe, too) but whatever you want is still there, nothing has changed except for the default view.
    This does not look like the same program with another default view. This looks like a completely different application.
    I must say that I saw the "new" version of YaST (on the 2nd screenshot) for a long time, if I was using KDE as my DE. As long as I installed XFCE as my default DE, YaST always looked like on the 1st screenshot (all the way to 13.2).





    Quote Originally Posted by gogalthorp View Post
    Select the search tab to search.
    Thank you very much for your help.

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    Default Re: How to revert to the old look of YAST?

    In 13.2 I had both UI's depending if I was using a qt or gtk desktop, personally I prefer the qt UI, maybe the gtk UI was abandoned in 42.1 (I have no gtk desktop's to try it on) what happens if you run
    Code:
    yast2 --gtk
    maybe you need to install some extra yast packages

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScumCoder View Post
    Thanks, but all that does is opens a left panel with patterns. I'm not interested in those and this is not the reason why I want to revert (proper search is).

    This does not look like the same program with another default view. This looks like a completely different application.
    I must say that I saw the "new" version of YaST (on the 2nd screenshot) for a long time, if I was using KDE as my DE. As long as I installed XFCE as my default DE, YaST always looked like on the 1st screenshot (all the way to 13.2).

    Thank you very much for your help.
    Are you sure you don't have a dropdown option "Groups" which should be exactly what you were seeing before?
    (That selection gives me the exact same as your screenshot on LXDE but the Desktop should not make a diff in selections)

    TSU

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_A View Post
    what happens if you run
    Code:
    yast2 --gtk
    Thank you man, now I finally understand how things work. I didn't know that yast2 had several frontends using different frameworks. You are absolutely right, my YaST2 on XFCE used the GTK frontend (1st screenshot).

    The problem is that this frontend was removed from yast (see this commit). So now I am screwed^W forced to use the Qt version.

    So the question is now: how to get proper search in the Qt version of YaST? Since most of you guys say that you prefer the Qt version, it obviously should be some way to get at least the same level of UX as with the abandoned GTK version.

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    Default Re: How to revert to the old look of YAST?

    Quote Originally Posted by ScumCoder View Post
    Thanks, but all that does is opens a left panel with patterns. I'm not interested in those and this is not the reason why I want to revert (proper search is).
    You quit too easily. Selecting Package group view will replicate what you show in your screencap.

    Only "but" is that search field is not integrated, you have to click the search tab. Not too difficult, IMHO.

    Fuzzy search, with the standard settings, if you search for abc, you get:

    abcde
    texlive-abc
    texlive-abc-doc

    If you append a blank space to the same search string, you'll only get:

    texlive-abc

    because there's an "abc " string *ONLY* in the description of this package, which is ticked in the search options.

    AFAIK(*) Yast Software Manager search uses the same engine regardless of the gui, there's no difference is the search results if the search settings are the same. You're just interpreting the blank space result as a "fuzzy" capability, when in fact the string has to exist to be found.

    Now, having the search field present for all tabs would save you one additional click, granted. I'd suggest you make a but report on this, not as a bug but as an improvement, stating your reasons for such. The devs may agree with you.

    Good luck!

    (*) But then, I've never liked the -gtk gui, so I can't confirm this offhand.

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